One more Question for you guys,

How many of you that are doing flat rate pricing do mainly resi work?

Is that what I am missing, flat rate for resi works best?

I do mainly commercial, light industrial stuff. Very very very few resi.

I can't afford the time driving, doing estimates, talking to someone for 2-3 hours.

I often wanted to "break into" this market, but have found that in this area, the amount of available skilled people are not here.

I pass it on to my buddies who do this for a living.

Anyone else have labor issues?

Anyone find using sub contractors a better way to handle labor issues than employees?