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#140379 02/28/04 05:49 PM
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searching for some electrical stuff on google, i found some interesting sites. I dont want to link to all of the pictures, so just check these nice pages:

switzerland http://www.adisto.ch/fotos.htm

http://www.bestmeister.de/schocker.htm German, hit the red Punchbutton on the page. inside the photo gallery, dont miss the further pages (pointer at upper right)

If anyone wants picture descriptions translated, just ask me.


and two pics that are too complicated to find on the page:

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
now how can this happen?


comments?

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#140380 02/28/04 06:33 PM
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Well, i'll edit some "burners"
hope the picture linking works.

first: dont get the wrong view of us here! thats all diy work [Linked Image]

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
rubber cable vs. water vs. winter ......

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
now that one is really great. Improperly connected wire without prescribed Ferrule. The Breakers are spread over DIY markets, no electrician would sell you these. So guess who installed...

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
Melted Aluminium foil around glass fuse


[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
water dripping into panel from a pipe fault.


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#140381 02/28/04 06:38 PM
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[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
"What's that for?" Receplacle plugged into Receptacle. check the other wiring...


[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
"next work step: covered with drywall" that little block anywhere in the middle is a Bell transformer. And no, we dont have yellow wirenuts, thats all tape!!


[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
Ground-less Receptacle installed on moveable door with flex Loudspeaker cable. Now who tops this?


[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
that one has a good story. the hot water pipes were not grounded and had a power fault anywhere. The metal hook mounted to a grounded part of steel at the upper end made the gnd contact and glowed. The guy over this was concerned about his warm floor with no floo rheating [Linked Image]

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
choc block or hot chocolate? flex cable for fixed install, diy, what more to say...

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#140382 02/28/04 06:45 PM
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[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]


ending up that way:
[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]


[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
GFCI = CHOC BLOCK

mounting kings... GOT YOU!
[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]

[Linked Image from bestmeister.de]
Solid+Stranded easily connected


hell, thats a huge archive. still more pics, dont miss it

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#140383 02/28/04 10:17 PM
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What would you want a socket on the back of a door for!?

We moved into a house and found a rather "DIY" looking surface mounted double BS1363 socket and decided to investigate it as it didn't switch off when the RCD tripped one day.

It was wired directly into the back of the cooker!!!!

as was the microwave!.. they'd simply cut the plug off and wired it squished the cables into the cooker connector! along with cables going to this socket and the incomming heavy cooker cable!...

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I've also had to put out a fire caused by someone using a washing machine and dryer connected to a 2 socket extension reel.. they'd just bypassed the 13 fuse in the plug as it kept blowing...

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Oh yeah, also found recessed lights grounded by simply by stripping back their earth cables and wrapping them tighting around a water pipe!!! in the attic.

I guess you have to give the guy some marks for effort, at least he vaguely understood the concept of grounding. Most people just wouldn't bother to hook that cable up if they couldn't find somewhere to connect it to.

I have no idea why he didn't just connect them to the grounding contact provided for them in the junction box they were connected to anyway!

The same guy also insulated with 4" of fiber glass wool right over the top of the light cans in the attic.. they had obviously repeatedly caught fire and gone out when we dug them out of the insulation.. it was very lucky that they'd nothing except plaster and fiber glass around them.. all of the insulation had burned off the cables!

We also dug a VERY hot bell transformer out from under the fiber glass too..

#140384 02/29/04 05:30 AM
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Thanks for the links and comments Andy. There's some good examples there of how not to install wiring.

Re the socket on the back of the door, maybe someone needed an outlet there quickly and couldn't be bothered to drill and plug the masonry wall alongside? Just shove a couple of wood or self-tapping screws into the door, et voila! [Linked Image] "Adjustable angle receptacle, patent pending...."

DJK,
The people installing fiberglass insulation (including some of the professional guys) really need lessons on what shouldn't be covered by it. They seem to just roll it over the top of everything in sight. I've seen can lights where the plastic and wiring has just about melted away as well.

#140385 02/29/04 08:28 AM
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There's even a better update about the water pipe Grounding.

The Pipe was installed in 1964, and as a new guy moved in some years ago, he used to walk bare feet at home, he realized the warm spot in his floor. No idea how long this was "heating" already. Really crazy story. I'm asking what current flow was needed to bring that thing to glow [Linked Image]

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