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What's Wrong? #108120 06/02/04 08:24 PM
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I don't know any of the history behind this, but thought it would make a good addition to the board.
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Re: What's Wrong? #108121 06/02/04 10:33 PM
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Well, completely ignoring the "Non Metallic Cable in Free Air" to the right of the Panel, how about flagging the lovely multi colored (other than white, white identified, or bare copper / Aluminum) going to the "neutral" / Grounded buss?

Re: What's Wrong? #108122 06/03/04 12:06 AM
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Interesting how some of the NM sheathing is inside the panel, and some is cut way too short.

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how about flagging the lovely multi colored...

Patriotism. Speaking of flagging, June 14th is Flag Day.

Here's the real punchline:
My wife took this picture. Really!

Re: What's Wrong? #108123 06/03/04 02:30 AM
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Thinkgood... Good to hear your wife is keeping an eye out for forum material [Linked Image] But this looks like its in someones basement, a friend of a friend of a friend? [Linked Image]... I wonder if the "thrifty nickel" guys who did an installation I came across moved! Shame for that QO panel to be treated this way! [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

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Shame for that QO panel to be treated this way!
Definitely -- All that lovely wide-open space. (Those who have seen the pics of British panels know what I mean.... [Linked Image])

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a friend of a friend of a friend?

House hunting!

Re: What's Wrong? #108126 06/03/04 10:02 PM
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Looks like a work in progress. Seems that someone is adding some new circuits - the hanging yellow romex. There's an open KO in the top of the panel, hopefully for those new ones.

It looks like there are neutrals and grounds mixed on the right bus; I can't see the bonding screw so I am not sure if this is a subpanel or not, but that lone ground coming in thru the conduit on the upper right implies that this is the main. The white reidentified with green as a ground looks a little to small to be restriped green.

Blues are OK for neutral (harmonized wiring uses blue for that) but having blue for both hot and neutral can be confusing.
/mike

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n1ist,

Blue is not OK for use as a neutral. IMO, The blue neutral from the "harmonized" system is a code violation. See article 200.

White cannot be reidentified as green no matter what the size. White may only be reidentified for use as an ungrounded conductor as part of a cable assembly.

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Re: What's Wrong? #108128 06/04/04 06:51 AM
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I also like the way the yellow NM is run to the bottom right breaker. Guess they didn't try to put on the panel cover so far [Linked Image]

Re: What's Wrong? #108129 06/06/04 02:05 AM
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At least it's yellow NM, and not the yellow extension cord seen elsewhere in these pages!

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