A very good response, Steve. I don't want to get into an "us vs. them" thing here, but I do note you were quick to counter my assertion.

What I'd really like to know is what the engineers out there think of George's assertion that the engineer can over-rule the code.

I suppose, if you dig hard enough, you can find decent folks in any field. It's the arrogant loose cannons that make it hard to see them.