pauluk, you hit the nail on the head! we only see their "export quality" stuff, and the standard, over there, is "make it as cheaply as we can, so that, even after paying the tariffs, we can still show a 200+% profit." actually, they really do have some very high quality products in china, but the outside world never see's it. they are a world leader in the uses of aluminum alloys, but the stuff we see is made from "clay-infused pot metal", and, recycled woks, (with the food still baked on).

gramps