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#81539 08/28/02 06:22 PM
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maybe we should ask a chef?


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#81540 08/28/02 09:05 PM
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You will also need a couple more circuits at this location. Two small appliance circuits and someone might wash a shirt in the dishwasher, so a laundry circuit as well. Just incase that same inspector comes back.

#81541 08/29/02 06:16 PM
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Might want to dry the shirt too. Dryer circuit! Hey suppose they want to bake some cookies in there. Range circuit!

#81542 08/29/02 07:10 PM
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Somnebody might just decide to take a snooze down there and turn it into a bedroom. Better make them all on AFCIs while you're about it!

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#81543 09/09/02 08:51 PM
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You have to realize that the code (excluding ampacity) is mostly garbage.

If you build furniture that looks a lot like cabinets with counter tops on the bottom, a nice backsplash, and more cabinets on the top with a built in sink, range, and refrig, I could suggest that no recepts are needed. I am sure most inspectors would disagree. Courts might be split.

It is a good idea to put recepts in in your situation.

#81544 09/09/02 10:38 PM
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Kitchen. An area designated for storage, preparation, cooking, and serving of food for members.


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#81545 09/10/02 07:29 AM
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Inspectors here would not consider this a kitchen. In order to be classified as kitchen as opposed to a wet bar/entertainment area, a 240 volt outlet for a range would have to be present or a gas or propane line for a range.

#81546 09/12/02 10:02 PM
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I agree that you must have a means of cooking in order to classify an area as a "kitchen". However what if, there is a cooktop, but no sink? Or no refrigerator? Would it then be a kitchen?

#81547 09/13/02 06:58 PM
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hmmm,
does anyone remember how 'sink' became the defining point of 'bathroom' ?

perhaps kitchens should follow suit?

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