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480V Detonator??? #68242
07/30/06 04:47 PM
07/30/06 04:47 PM
Lostazhell  Offline OP
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http://www.msha.gov/FATALS/2003/FAB03c13.HTM

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COAL MINE FATALITY - On March 23, 2003, a 51-year-old section foreman, with 25 years mining experience, sustained serious burn injuries from a 480-volt receptacle located on a section power center. The injuries apparently occurred when the victim used the energized receptacle to detonate explosives while developing a boom-hole. He died at a burn center on April 10, 2003. The victim was not a qualified electrician or a certified shot-firer.


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Re: 480V Detonator??? #68243
07/30/06 05:11 PM
07/30/06 05:11 PM
renosteinke  Offline
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Rush Limbaugh said "The real experts make what they do look easy."

Dirty Harry said "A Man's got to know his limitations!"

"Backpacker" magazine said it best, though... "Sometimes the doofus dies."

Re: 480V Detonator??? #68244
07/31/06 02:04 AM
07/31/06 02:04 AM
Trumpy  Offline

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I've worked with explosives before (and yes I do have an explosives licence) and doing something as stupid as this would just never be done anywhere here.
This guy got what was coming to him, I hate to say.
Explosives are not for incompetent people. [Linked Image]

Re: 480V Detonator??? #68245
07/31/06 03:44 AM
07/31/06 03:44 AM
Alan Belson  Offline
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Mayenne N. France
I was an explosives engineer, [22 years Royal Ordnance]. No licence, [strictly for civvies].
The 480v did not detonate the explosives, period. Only a proper detonator could do that. This guy probably used the voltage to set off an electric detonator. I guess the injuries were caused at the panel shown, by a short, since only a complete wazzock would have put his contactor next the blowhole. [ Analagy: sawing off the branch you're standing on.] In which case, this was purely an electrical accident and the link to explosives is not an issue, except to the media ignoramusses.
I will say that eventually you can get complacent about hazards in any profession, so this guy deserves our sympathy, where but for the grace of God....

In my case, I broke both my eardums.

Take care today.


Alan


Wood work but can't!
Re: 480V Detonator??? #68246
07/31/06 07:55 AM
07/31/06 07:55 AM
togol  Offline
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NW In. USA
also,
This fatality was determined to be chargeable to the coal mining industry on May 15, 2003.

the guy was not qualified / certified but companies most likely had to install yet another idiot-proof modification to equipment throughout the coal mining industry to prevent this type of accident from recurring and of course, more restrictions, more $$$, more training, more lost time

"The difference between genius and stupidity .....,
......genius has its limits " Einstein


Tom
Re: 480V Detonator??? #68247
07/31/06 09:02 AM
07/31/06 09:02 AM
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KBSHORTS  Offline
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Charlottesville, Va.
Sounds like our old friend Doofy found a new job!
KB

Re: 480V Detonator??? #68248
07/31/06 09:46 AM
07/31/06 09:46 AM
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Gloria  Offline
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//Dirty Harry? I heard that from Dave Mustaine.


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Re: 480V Detonator??? #68249
07/31/06 10:29 AM
07/31/06 10:29 AM
togol  Offline
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NW In. USA
KB,.......yeah, he's sorta like Mothman...

Dave Mustaine ????


Tom
Re: 480V Detonator??? #68250
07/31/06 04:42 PM
07/31/06 04:42 PM
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iwire  Offline
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Dave Mustane is the founder of the Metal band 'Megadeath'

Sorry Gloria Dirty Harry said it before Dave.

But who knows, his writers may have ripped it from someone else as well.

(Webmaster note: original linked image has since changed, and no longer relevant here)

[This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited 02-17-2007).]


Bob Badger
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