just watched a programme on the Discovery cannel about the Pentagon. One guy describing the state of the electrical services stated that its been in violation of the NEC since 1952.
Just thought I'd share this bit of trivia with you.
Having spent nearly 20 years with our own defence services and seen the state of some of their wiring it just makes you wonder how the lawmakers can force you to comply but totally ignore the issues themselves.
The UK government recently appointed some junior MP as the minister in charge of the 'National Insurance Fund', which is fed by taxes, can amount to 9% of income, and is supposed to fund the 'Health' Service. Pressed by an opposition MP as to where this 'fund' was that he was in charge of, and how much was it it, the Government had to eventually admit, after a lot of bluff and baloney, that the 'fund' had never existed, and all monies collected just went into the government's coffers as tax. If we tried a swindle like that, we would be in jail.
[This message has been edited by Alan Belson (edited 10-02-2005).]
Wood work but can't!
Re: Pentagon#56886 10/02/0507:42 AM10/02/0507:42 AM
One guy describing the state of the electrical services stated that its been in violation of the NEC since 1952.
Thinking about this some more, I wonder exactly what was meant. Any wiring installed prior to 1952 would be "grandfathered," and not required to be brought up to current code.
I wonder if the Pentagon has any sort of exemption or whether technically it should comply with whatever local codes are in force in that part of Virginia. Not that I'd relish the thought of being the inspector who tries to take on the Pentagon......
A little closer to home, did you know that buildings owned by the Metropolitan Police are exempt from complying with the Building Regulations?
Re: Pentagon#56887 10/02/0507:51 AM10/02/0507:51 AM
Projects funded by the US Govt for the Govt are often not inspected by the local inspectors.
The GSA (Govt Services Administration) watches over the jobs. The contracts will tell us to wire to local codes and the GSA is supposed to enforce that. Of course the GSA guy will not have a clue as to what the NEC is or what a construction project looks like.
At least that has been my experience after doing some buildings for the IRS.
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
Re: Pentagon#56888 10/02/0510:08 AM10/02/0510:08 AM
I can already see where this thread is possibly going. Everything iwire just said does not suprise me one bit. What the heck, why inspect anything if the taxpayer can just always pay more if need be? (shakes head in disguist)
Re: Pentagon#56889 10/02/0511:10 AM10/02/0511:10 AM
Lets just say no one there has any concept of production.
Ding!! Bob, that's true wherever 2 or more bureaucrats gather! Denise and I went to our small local Tresor Publique (tax office) with a query. The office was brand spanking new and with no expense spared, remodelled into a fine old building and must have cost more than a few hundred grand. The officer said she'd get our dossier. She came back with a blinking microfiche machine! ( this is 2004, not 1982!). Expertly sliding the glass fiche into the machine, she looked for a receptacle to plug it in. There weren't any receptacles in the office, and she wound up looking at our file on the floor in a corridor using the cleaners' recept.! We contained ourselves till the gold-plated, double-glazed automatic doors swished closed behind us on our way out, then exploded in laughter!