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#39928 07/06/04 08:39 PM
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Has anybody looked at these yet? . I wonder what the long term reliablity will be, and how well that thing in the back stays in.

Theres always enough room in the junction box.You just need a bigger hammer
#39929 07/06/04 09:06 PM
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Our usual rocker crew will have a hay day with those! Guarranteed to have every wire, and that plug tore up, bag and plug full of mud.

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
#39930 07/06/04 09:23 PM
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Did everyone notice that in the picture the outlet is installed gound pin up? [Linked Image]

#39931 07/06/04 09:43 PM
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I wonder if they'll eventually come in "audio grade"... [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist!

Actually, it does look pretty slick.

No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.
#39932 07/06/04 10:59 PM
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Sir Arcs — You could always buy a Dewar of liquid nitrogen and make your own.

#39933 07/06/04 11:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
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So do you think they use 12 or 14 awg wire on the pigtail, and how would that affect the install if put on a 20 amp circ?

#39934 07/07/04 12:28 AM
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"Did everyone notice that in the picture the outlet is installed gound pin up?"

Yes, I noticed that it was upside down, too! It even has writing on it that's right reading when it's rightside up, and they still got it wrong. [Linked Image]

#39935 07/07/04 06:25 AM
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shows a different method of connecting to outlets using insulation displacement connectors

#39936 07/07/04 07:23 AM
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The cut sheet says the PlugTail conductors are #12 THHN copper conductor, 6" leads, stripped, solid or stranded and rated as permanent part of the device.

#39937 07/07/04 05:47 PM
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It looks a little odd at first, but thinking about it further it should be all right so long as the actually connectors are tight.

It looks as though they might be a slight variation on the 1/4-inch spade terminals which are common in automotive applications. The latter stand up to high-ish currents at low voltages, with lots of movement and vibration.

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