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Minimum Bend Radius? #213775
07/15/14 07:32 PM
07/15/14 07:32 PM
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600v, 500kcmil cable termination.


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Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213777
07/15/14 10:44 PM
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OK, lets start a comment...

Judging by the insulation, and tinned conductor, this is an 'aged' installation.

Hard to tell from the pic, but the clearance from those extra long bolts??

Is the termination (clamp) rated for what appears to be parallel secondaries? Or is this unique engineering??

Is this a POCO transformer?? If so, then throw the NEC out!


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Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213779
07/16/14 05:58 PM
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Yes it's an older installation. The transformer is one of 3, single phase Allis-Chalmers "Curvacore" transformers and were used to step down 3 phase 4160V to 208/120V. I did a web search and couldn't find any info on them. All 3 were leaking oil and have been replaced.
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Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213781
07/16/14 07:03 PM
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Leaking oil? Did you, btw, try to soak a paper towel in the oil, then try to set it afire?

Old location .... oil that won't burn ... Hello, PCB's. Not really the sort of thing you simply toss in a dumpster or hose down the drain.

Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213784
07/16/14 08:03 PM
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They were tagged as PCB free, but I never touched it. There was a service tag on it at least. We were supposed to get an oil sample, but the sampling valve was so corroded we were afraid it would break. I see the same PCB free tags on oil filled utility breakers, but we're replacing those with SF6 dead tank breakers.

Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213785
07/16/14 08:21 PM
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OK, now we know 'customer owned', PCB free, a 'mat' setup, and old.

I had a few locations in Union County, NJ that I did demo and bringing the elec into the 20th century. Two locations were PCB issues,confirmed by my samples sent to a lab. The legal disposal was $$$ but necessary and a lot cheaper then dealing with a contamination issue. One of these sites had 'leakers' but thecontamination was limited to the concrete slab and 3' of soil.

Both of the above sites were replaced with POCO 2000KVA pad mounts and respective gear.

BTW, Welcome to ECN Forums from one of the 'Jersey Guys'!!


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Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213789
07/17/14 03:58 PM
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Our "leakers" were on concrete so no oil went into soil, but the disposal fee was high (from what I heard). We also replaced the 4160 with a new 12.47KV service & POCO 300KVA 3 phase pad mount and gear. Some of the old stuff I see is almost beyond belief that somebody wasn't killed. Also, thanks for the welcome!
Greg

Re: Minimum Bend Radius? [Re: Admin] #213795
07/17/14 09:47 PM
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You were lucky. Mine seeped thru what was an expansion joint.

I have to find time to look thru my old pics to see if I still have them.

PS:
Look here for a mat job...
https://www.electrical-contractor.n...leries/213689/Copper_Theft.html#comments

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