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Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211694 11/11/13 12:33 PM
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What about an inspection? If it was inspected why was the inspector not included in suit/arrests? The lawyers usually go after everyone.

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Re: Electricians charged [Re: jdevlin] #211703 11/11/13 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jdevlin
What about an inspection? If it was inspected why was the inspector not included in suit/arrests? The lawyers usually go after everyone.


You have to have a permit to get an inspection.

Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211705 11/12/13 01:06 AM
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I am still curious about the scope of this work.
Perhaps Texas is different but a renovation would require a permit here and a simple repair probably would not require bringing the pool up to current code.

As tragic as this was, I think the homicide charge may be an over reach unless we hear something more than I have been able to find on the web.


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Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211714 11/12/13 05:06 PM
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Pool repairs are subject to permits and inspections here.

That said, not every repair complies with the above.

NJ has an annual mandatory electrical inspection for all pools other than single family resi. It is basically "visual" with GFI testing. The 'visual' on occasion turns up obvious work that was performed, like deck repairs that may have effected the equi bond.

In conjunction with the above, the pools are required to have a bonding certification & test performed every five (5) years.


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Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211716 11/12/13 05:49 PM
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I do not know the extent of the work or whether a permit was required. If in fact a GFCI was installed, it would have not been able to be reset. If they had worked on the light they would have to install a GFCI in event it was not present. I agree, with the age of LED low voltage lights and fiber optics, line voltage lighting in pools and ponds should be a thing of the past. I would not install one.

Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211717 11/12/13 07:41 PM
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The company didn't have a permit, but needed one according to the Houston Building Dept.

The LED bulbs draw 70 watts with the same light output as the 500 watt quartz bulb.
Some have the ability to change colors, and with the right controller, are able to put on light shows in the pool and control low voltage LED landscape lights.

The material cost for new construction is a little over twice as much as the 120 quartz.


Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211718 11/12/13 08:03 PM
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BTW, the majority of the pools I refered to do not have any in pool lighting.


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Re: Electricians charged [Re: WESTUPLACE] #211719 11/12/13 10:53 PM
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I talked to my wife about this, she has 7 commercial pools at the club. She says he health inspector (the guy who inspects pools on an ongoing basis) would have flagged a missing GFCI years ago here.
As I said a few days ago, if these guys removed it, it might be negligent homicide


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Re: Electricians charged [Re: gfretwell] #211721 11/13/13 01:53 AM
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All we do know is what media choose to report. As always, innocent until proven guilty. If found guilty, throw the book at guilty parties. They all should have known better.


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Re: Electricians charged [Re: sparkyinak] #211724 11/13/13 11:32 AM
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These two guys don't seem particularly bright and I'm struggling to accept that they hold the qualifications required to do this sort of work.

Everybody knows that water and electricity make a deadly combination, but to install equipment like this in a pool with no earth leakage protection, seems like something out of the Twilight Zone.

Irregardless of the fact that no permit was put out for the job or no inspection happened, you can't tell me with a straight face that these guys had no idea that what they were doing was down-right WRONG.

It's just a real shame that a guy lost his life as a result of this.

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