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AFCI at the first outlet #198394
01/20/11 02:41 PM
01/20/11 02:41 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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If the dwelling is using IMC, EMT, AC cable or RMC for the wiring method, is AFCI protection required? or the exception to 210.12 applies to the first receptacle only?

Thank you.


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Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: Niko] #198395
01/20/11 03:14 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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The last few words sum it up.

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it shall be permitted to install a combination AFCI at the first outlet to provide protection for the remaining portion of the branch circuit.


You still need the AFCI but you can push it out to the first outlet location.


Greg Fretwell
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: gfretwell] #198396
01/20/11 04:07 PM
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ghost307  Offline
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I'm also pretty sure that they mean the first receptacle on that circuit, not the first receptacle on that conduit run.

2 circuits = 2 AFCIs.


Ghost307
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: ghost307] #198405
01/20/11 11:29 PM
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All you have to do then is find the readily available (Ha Ha) AFCI device!!!


John
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: HotLine1] #198424
01/21/11 02:56 PM
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harold endean  Offline
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John,

Has anyone seen an AFCI device? Tooth Fairy? Easter Bunny? ELVIS?



Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: harold endean] #198426
01/21/11 04:14 PM
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ghost307  Offline
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...and what were they smoking when they saw it??

LOL


Ghost307
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: ghost307] #198430
01/21/11 05:27 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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I see Elvis at the 7-11 all the time and he has lost weight but, alas, no AFCI device.


Greg Fretwell
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: gfretwell] #198551
01/26/11 11:47 PM
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AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag.


Tesla
Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: Tesla] #198559
01/27/11 01:11 PM
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harold endean  Offline
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Tesla,

I am a little behind in my reading. I have 3 EC mag and 4 IAEI mags ahead of the new EC magazine. However I will get there, sooner or later! smile

Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: harold endean] #198583
01/28/11 11:36 AM
01/28/11 11:36 AM
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Tesla:

You said...."AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag."

IF you mean page 75 of the 1-11 issue....that is the reference materials from the NEC changes/Handbook!

IMHO, and that of many others here....it does NOT exist!




John
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