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Posted By: Niko AFCI at the first outlet - 01/20/11 06:41 PM
If the dwelling is using IMC, EMT, AC cable or RMC for the wiring method, is AFCI protection required? or the exception to 210.12 applies to the first receptacle only?

Thank you.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/20/11 07:14 PM
The last few words sum it up.

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it shall be permitted to install a combination AFCI at the first outlet to provide protection for the remaining portion of the branch circuit.


You still need the AFCI but you can push it out to the first outlet location.
Posted By: ghost307 Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/20/11 08:07 PM
I'm also pretty sure that they mean the first receptacle on that circuit, not the first receptacle on that conduit run.

2 circuits = 2 AFCIs.
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/21/11 03:29 AM
All you have to do then is find the readily available (Ha Ha) AFCI device!!!
Posted By: harold endean Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/21/11 06:56 PM
John,

Has anyone seen an AFCI device? Tooth Fairy? Easter Bunny? ELVIS?


Posted By: ghost307 Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/21/11 08:14 PM
...and what were they smoking when they saw it??

LOL
Posted By: gfretwell Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/21/11 09:27 PM
I see Elvis at the 7-11 all the time and he has lost weight but, alas, no AFCI device.
Posted By: Tesla Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/27/11 03:47 AM
AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag.
Posted By: harold endean Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/27/11 05:11 PM
Tesla,

I am a little behind in my reading. I have 3 EC mag and 4 IAEI mags ahead of the new EC magazine. However I will get there, sooner or later! smile
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/28/11 03:36 PM
Tesla:

You said...."AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag."

IF you mean page 75 of the 1-11 issue....that is the reference materials from the NEC changes/Handbook!

IMHO, and that of many others here....it does NOT exist!


Posted By: Tesla Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/29/11 12:04 AM
It's referenced on page 74 as a PROTOTYPE.

I made no claims that it was in production, just that this 'unicorn' is in print.
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/29/11 12:24 AM
Tesla:

Ok! I got your drift now. The proto (P&S if I remember) must be coming from the fabled 'Skunk Works'!!
Posted By: electure Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/29/11 02:49 AM

The Fabled AFCI Device, courtesy of EC Magazine


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Posted By: PAteenlectrician Re: AFCI at the first outlet - 01/29/11 07:54 AM
Looks like someone took a gfi and put "branch circut afi"
I only they would put them IN cheapo extension cords and plug strips. I got lucky! I caught the arching early!
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