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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: prattdad] #171768 12/05/07 07:33 AM
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Thank you all for your help and comments...


thanks for the input....Triple D Electricians
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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #171790 12/05/07 07:50 PM
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Go to church. I meen a church, Or both. Take a good look around,see the architecture. Then you will understand some comments and the pending (potential)doom.

Bottom line: Spell out every minor detail you can think of.From lifts,staging, who covers them. to church members doing work that will affect your progress.It can be done. But you must be razor sharp.

Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #171819 12/06/07 03:45 PM
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A church rec. hall is a place of public assembly. Read NEC 518.

Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #171823 12/06/07 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wire_twister
I have done several large jobs for several different churches, with minimal problems. That being said you can count on everything everybody said to be true, and then some. Just bid the job per the drawing, include a detailed scope of work, what you will and wont do, and stick to it. Price the job like you would any other including your profit margin, and remember if you do not get it you probably do not want it. As far as estimating, the going rate in my part of the world is $35.00 per drop, this is each receptacle, switch, and fixture, add to this the cost of the service,($2.00 per amp here) then add your usual percentage for headroom in case things get ugly. Put it all on paper and hope for the best.


No pun intended, but how in the Lord's name can a service be estimated a $XX.00 per amp?

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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: Redsy] #171830 12/06/07 06:52 PM
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this is just what it says, an ESTIMATE each service is different and should be priced accordingly, $2.00 per amp is a starting point that happens to work out about 90% of the time IN MY AREA


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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #171833 12/06/07 07:06 PM
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==A church rec. hall is a place of public assembly. Read NEC 518.====

Read it carefully.


===No pun intended, but how in the Lord's name can a service be estimated a $XX.00 per amp? ====
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I agree, for most applications,allbeit residential it is more accurate.

Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: leland] #171861 12/07/07 09:13 AM
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I guess it just shows that given enough data points, anything will start to follow a pattern.

One 1 particularly huge job that I did, we noticed that 12.47KV switchgear was the same price per inch of length, pretty much regardless of what breakers were installed.

Really weird, pretty useless, but interesting and worth discussing over a few brewskis.


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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #171918 12/08/07 08:02 PM
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I do alot of remolding in residential settings. That said I have my fair share of commercial accounts. If I were you I would painstakingly work up every run I could think of that would be required. As you know your costs for residential runs. You will need to find your costs for your commercial.
Keep in mind things like being on site when the masons installing block to get the conduit in or the pvc conduits that will go into the floor before the pours etc. Is this design build? I would also make it known that you are a for profit business and that freebees will not be part of the deal. Lastly you must know your conduit abilities it is not something to jump in and learn on a job like this.
Good luck~!
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Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: wire_twister] #172093 12/13/07 02:41 AM
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can you put a lien on a church?

Re: Estimating a commercial job [Re: trevman] #172095 12/13/07 06:54 AM
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So a 200a service is $400. My cost on 200a main breakers homline panel is $140. alone. I'm thinking this would not work out so well here in PA.


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