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Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense #169430 10/04/07 08:30 PM
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From Ian, TheElectricKid:

The first pic is the all-too-common unanchoredm unprotected Romex:


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Then there is the classic manner of hanging a light:


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Things aren't much better inside the home:


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Finally, our usual fine range receptacle install:


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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: renosteinke] #169433 10/04/07 09:56 PM
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Thanks John, fitting title!

And before anyone asks, yes that is zipcord on that attic light. And yes, it used to go to a non-deadfront plug. (Since replaced with a modern, compliant one. At least until it goes to scrap.)

And yes, that old redwood 2X4 gets warm when the light's on for a few hours of work.

Ian A.


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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: Theelectrikid] #169446 10/05/07 10:29 AM
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The flying splices are the icing on the cake.

I guess it might be the lighting (HAHA!) but it looks like there was a previous fire in this attic...if not give it time - we have fires all the time from people hanging light bulbs next to wood siding, wood posts, curtains, plastic shutters, clothing, etc.

i can only imagine what the service for this fine residential installation looked like...

Mike (mamills)

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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: mamills] #169450 10/05/07 11:53 AM
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Except for the range receptacle, that could almost be pictures from this side of the pond as well.

What's the gray in the first photo Ian? (Looks as though the plant pot would be hanging on it if the ceiling gave way!)

Is that more unsecured Romex, or is it something like SE?

Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: pauluk] #169455 10/05/07 12:33 PM
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Ian, get a clamp-lamp. It is a self contained socket-reflector-clamp good for clamping onto timber and using for a temporary work light. I had one I religiously used, but it got mangled to death somehow.

Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: mamills] #169460 10/05/07 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mamills
The flying splices are the icing on the cake.


Believe or not, no flying (frying?) splices in these pics, just old raggedy NM! That dryer cable was replaced due to one though. I'll get pics of that when the drywall comes down in the garage.

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I guess it might be the lighting (HAHA!) but it looks like there was a previous fire in this attic...if not give it time - we have fires all the time from people hanging light bulbs next to wood siding, wood posts, curtains, plastic shutters, clothing, etc.


Close, but not quite. See those metal straps in the background? The handyman installed a modular fireplace in the living room and put the chimney through the garage attic and roof. He must not have lined up the sections well enough, be cause they separated, and the nice hot smoke discolored all the wood, and burned a nice hole in the plywood sheathing.

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i can only imagine what the service for this fine residential installation looked like...


John, more pics headed your way!

Originally Posted by Pauluk
What's the gray in the first photo Ian? (Looks as though the plant pot would be hanging on it if the ceiling gave way!)

Is that more unsecured Romex, or is it something like SE?


That's more Romex. It goes to the handyman's fireplace's fans, which no longer work. It comes off an ungrounded circuit somewhere...

Originally Posted by classicsat
Ian, get a clamp-lamp. It is a self contained socket-reflector-clamp good for clamping onto timber and using for a temporary work light. I had one I religiously used, but it got mangled to death somehow.


Unfortunately the closet light "has to do" (said my father) until (more like if) the garage gets rewired.

Ian A.


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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: renosteinke] #169472 10/05/07 07:08 PM
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Here are pics of the service to this house:


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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: renosteinke] #169485 10/05/07 09:33 PM
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Back when I was a Firefighter, we had a house fire call. Upon arrival the second floor was well involved. After we put the fire out, we interviewed the homeowner. He stated that in the closet where the fire started, it had a pull chain cord connected light. It was wrapped around a nail. In his words "It had been sparkin for weeks every time you turned the light on" The closet was filled with his teenage girls gowns. (he tried to put it out with a cooking pot before he called us. He was a lawyer. Real smart!

Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: Theelectrikid] #169594 10/09/07 02:24 PM
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Ian, a clamp lamp only costs about 5 or 6 dollars if you get it at a Walmart or some similar big-box mega-lo-mart. Your dad's being a skinflint.

When I was a 12-year old kid (many many many many moon ago), I used to drape a piece of old extension cord with a bulb socket at the end over a nail, just like that. When we moved out of that apartment, I had left a burn-mark the size of a quarter on the wallpaper. eek

P.S. You still got the old plug? Trade you for the clamp lamp if you can't score a cheap one. Hehehehe crazy

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Re: Older Home, Usual DIY Nonsense [Re: WESTUPLACE] #169595 10/09/07 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WESTUPLACE
"It had been sparkin for weeks every time you turned the light on" The closet was filled with his teenage girls gowns. (he tried to put it out with a cooking pot before he called us. He was a lawyer. Real smart!


Reminds me of the Harlem building fire a few days ago. It was caused by a gas leak, according to authorities.

Apparently people had smelled town-gas in that building for weeks...but nobody had ever called the gas company to report it!!! shocked mad eek

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