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#112941 12/29/01 01:00 AM
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What are your thoughts on these fixtures and the way that this one is installed? (this is a clothes closet)

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call the bomb squad...

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Bill:

Violates 410-8 because "lampholders" are not allowed in a clothes closet. This is not a "fixture", common error by many calling it one.


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Joe,

Thanks for the correction, I should have put the word in 'quotes' as I was not sure what to call it. Were these ever legal for use in clothes closets? I'm also wondering about the situation with the cord being stapled and passing through the doorway. I would think that for these 'Lampholders' to be used a receptacle would have to be on the inside of a closet, which I'll bet was not the standard mode of installation.

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Bill: Only "fixture" of special types identified in 410-8 are allowed in "clothes closets", I'll bet if we knew who made the product you show here, that the instructions say not to use it in a clothes closes, although I may be wrong --- but who knows -- and we still can buy non dead front cord caps with discs!


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They missed a couple of spots when they painted the extension cord.
Any idea where that other plugged in cord goes?

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electure,

Yes, I do know about the other cord. It goes to a second doorway to the right that leads to the Garage. Yeah, you have to go through a small coat closet to get to the Garage! Kinda neat having secret doors like that. I don't like these lights in there though, or the cord stapled and passing through the doorway.

The house itself is hidden from the street by the landscaping and I couldn't even get in their driveway more than 10 feet because it is made up of several sharp turns designed specifically to disguise itself. I passed it 3 times without seeing it the first time I went there. Someone spent a lot of time and expense laying out the property.

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I've often seen similar techniques for closet wiring in this country.

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a non-dead front cord cap? I've often seen references to dead-front plugs etc. but never quite been able to figure out what it refers to.

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Here is what I meant about non-dead front:

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Paul,

To add a little to Joes'icture there the plastic 'shield' (?) comes off and there are exposed screw terminals below with the stranded wires wrapped around them.

Joe,

Are door-jamb switches considered as being outside the closet?

Bill


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