Sorry Mr. strawberry, I just wanted to know if a person with your point of view had any experience to back it up. Even if you were a doctor, lawyer or an engineer from NASA there are those of us that would wonder where you came in contact with all of these incompetent electricians. When I find mistakes made in the field it is normally done be someone playing electrician ( Joe the guy that worked maintenance at the apartments down the street). When I find a hack job, I will ask for the name of the contractor that did the work. I have yet to find a legitimate contractor named. The green wire does not know who hooked it up and if it is hooked up properly no one will ever know. People are allowed to legally do many types of electrical work without a license ( home repairs by owner, maintenance both commercial & industrial as an employee )but when they go in the field and advertise thier services as a qualified electrican, they are stating that they have a certain level of competence and in my opinion the honor system doesn't work. Without a license a person can not get a business license and without a business license they can't purchase insurance. It's the same with a driver's license, there are many people that don't drive repsonsibly but if you are injured in an accident you hope the other driver has a license and insurance. If you want to do your own work I don't think anyone cares but if you are trying to justify handymen by saying that there are a few incompetent electricians with a license that dog wont hunt. If that logic was sound we would have to open up all professions and tomorrow I'm doing surgery because it pays better than electrical work.