I didn't mean to promote incivility. If someone wants to charge $4000.00 for an upgrade I could do for 1/2 that, power to them. A guy in my area advertised in the local paper "Complete service upgrades from $450.00!!" a year ago. He's working at Walmart as a stockperson now. Lowballers and highenders usually run their course in 2 years or less around here. I don't spend too much time worrying about them, the market determines their fate soon enough. I may be the odd bird. I just want to be able to pay my bills,get my kids an education and retire a few months before I die. Gave up on getting rich years ago. I think the Lord knows I wouldn't handle it well.