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If we use special means (anything that would not be present under normal conditions) to test the device, we are in no way simulating a real incident. So what good would this be?

Roger

Thats a good point, in an area where there is no reference to ground there is no shock hazard. The GFCI will not trip on a line-Neutral fault, like our over priced AFCI. In those situations where there is no reference I tried everything to get it to trip with wiggy et al. I will have to try the 'Boot-leg' ground idea and see if that works. AT this point I dont see how it could the graound screw point is still open and it would seem reasonable that the current would just as likely return on the neutral than hang around at the green screw.

-Mark-