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Terminating PVC #118796
10/27/04 10:29 PM
10/27/04 10:29 PM
electure  Offline
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How do you terminate underfloor/underground conduits when they come up into an open bottomed enclosure.

Obviously, I think this is not the best way.
Is it a violation?


[Linked Image]


Most of the wholesalers I know don't even stock endbells, and it's a very rare thing to find them installed anywhere.

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Re: Terminating PVC #118797
10/28/04 08:02 AM
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I've always cut them about that height, but removed any burs and wouldnt leave the sharp edges like they did. I'll flip a coin if I put a coupling on the end. Some inspector might tag you for not protecting the wires I guess, but to me it would be a stretch, its PVC for goodness sake. Worst case, if you ever get tagged, put a PVC Box connector and then a plastic bushing. Have the PVC bushing protect the wires from the PVC pipe! [Linked Image]

But yes, the broken edges in that picture bug me.

Re: Terminating PVC #118798
10/28/04 08:20 AM
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How about a plastic bushing on those raceways that contain conductors 4 AWG and larger?

300.4


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Re: Terminating PVC #118799
10/28/04 02:48 PM
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iwire  Offline
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dmattox
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Some inspector might tag you for not protecting the wires I guess, but to me it would be a stretch,


It is not a stretch, a bushing is required for PVC regardless of the conductor size.


ARTICLE 352 Rigid Nonmetallic Conduit: Type RNC
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352.46 Bushings.
Where a conduit enters a box, fitting, or other enclosure, a bushing or adapter shall be provided to protect the wire from abrasion unless the box, fitting, or enclosure design provides equivalent protection.


Bob Badger
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Massachusetts
Re: Terminating PVC #118800
10/28/04 04:41 PM
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Please use a saw

110-12

Re: Terminating PVC #118801
10/28/04 05:28 PM
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pauluk  Offline
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How about fitting a plastic or metal plate horizontally within the bottom of the enclosure and terminating the conduits with normal fittings through it?

It would mean a lot more work, but it would certainly look neater.

Re: Terminating PVC #118802
10/28/04 07:15 PM
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arseegee  Offline
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I always use a male adapter and plastic bushing when stubbing into gear or xfmrs.

Re: Terminating PVC #118803
10/28/04 07:36 PM
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Nick  Offline
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Riverside, CA
I always use end bells.
It's also common to see people run branch conduits into hand holes by wrapping the whole bundle (riser) with duct tape. [Linked Image]
Fat chance you will get any kind of bushing on it after its back filled.
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its PVC for goodness sake

I hear that comment all to often. [Linked Image]

Re: Terminating PVC #118804
10/28/04 08:30 PM
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I have to say that the code requirement seem superflous; isn't a pvc pipe 'equivalent' in protection to a pvc bushing? Indeed, isn't there mor often sign that the wire insulation abraded the pipe, rather than the reverse?
If this is the worst violation found, I'd have to say "good job!"

Re: Terminating PVC #118805
10/28/04 08:46 PM
10/28/04 08:46 PM
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Sorry, John, I disagree
352.46 ......unless the box, fitting, or enclosure design provides equivalent protection........
I don't see anywhere that it says "conduit"

Sharp edges can cut the insulation (ever cut yourself on PVC? It can be gory).

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