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#95495 - 09/16/05 08:45 PM EGC for 4 subpanels.  
Edward  Offline
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I finished a fourplex four meter pack with four disconnects on one enclosure.And i have four 60Amp feed through one conduit to each subpanel that are installed side by side in a 36"x48" enclosure. I have pulled only one #10 EGC that is being daisy chained from one panel to the next.
I have a feeling that i need four #10EGC.
Am I correct?

Please show NEC reference because i can not find it.

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Edward


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#95496 - 09/16/05 09:28 PM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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And i have four 60Amp feed through one conduit to each subpanel that are installed side by side in a 36"x48"

what kind of raceway?

h20


#95497 - 09/16/05 09:59 PM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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One EMT conduit with four "C" conduilets that feed each panel separately. It is not a through feed installation.
I will try to submit picture.

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Edward


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#95498 - 09/16/05 10:07 PM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
Larry Fine  Offline
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Ed, the EMT itself should qualify as the EGC for each panel. Otherwise, yes, each feeder should have its own EGC, I believe.


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#95499 - 09/17/05 05:47 AM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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One EGC for all the circuits is OK.

Quote
250.122(C) Multiple Circuits. Where a single equipment grounding conductor is run with multiple circuits in the same raceway or cable, it shall be sized for the largest overcurrent device protecting conductors in the raceway or cable.


Not sure the power company will be happy with the feeders from 4 different meters to all be in the same conduit.



[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 09-17-2005).]


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#95500 - 09/17/05 06:33 AM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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I don't know why the power company would care, since the feeders are all downstream of the main OCP. The AHJ might care, but I don't see any real issues with it.


#95501 - 09/17/05 06:43 AM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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Power theft would be the power company's issue.


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#95502 - 09/17/05 11:28 AM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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I think 250.24(C) is the section we want.

As I read it, you are only required to have on GEC (wire to a ground rod). The utility neutral, however, must be bonded to the case of each of the disconects- so the egc will terminate to the neutral buss at each disconnect as well.


#95503 - 09/17/05 11:33 AM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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Reno I believe the GEC would be at the meter stacks with the service disconnect(s) the wires in the EMT are feeders not service conductors. [Linked Image]


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#95504 - 09/17/05 06:12 PM Re: EGC for 4 subpanels.  
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I agree, Iwire.....I only brought up the GEC as this is the sort of application where things get confused easily. After all, there is the question of what to do with the EGC once it reaches the panel.



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