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#86934 12/24/03 12:53 AM
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If an outdoor residential spa has a built in GFI, does it need a GFI breaker at the Panel feeding it? Does it need a disconnect near the spa when the panel is not in with site?


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#86935 12/24/03 11:46 AM
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according to 680-40 for outdoor spas it sends you to 680 parts A and B. 680-12 states that a disconnecting means shall be provided and accessible within sight of all pools, spas, and hot tubs and shall be at least 5 feet from the wall. As for the gfi requirement, in my area a gfci breaker is required but I cant find the article. I dont know if this is a local thing or in the nec. hope this helps.

#86936 12/24/03 11:56 AM
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Yeah, I couldn't find the GFI requirement either. Thanks for your help.


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#86937 12/24/03 12:54 PM
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Check out 680.44. If I'm not mistaken, a listed spa package with integral GFCI protection is permitted without GFCI protection on the branch circuit or the outlet serving the spa.


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the disco is something that needs to be within sight of the motor, as some tub motors are not intergral to the tub ( as in commercial settings) an E-stop for the serving motor is to be placed within sight of the tub. (from the hip, this might be 680.41)

isn't it interesting that , a permanent hardwired pool should not require a GFI , where most hot tubs & spas are listed for them?

must be something to do with the bonding eh?

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#86939 12/24/03 01:30 PM
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Yep, you would think an in-ground pool would need a GFI for the pump motor. The pool light has one.


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