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Prefered method for underground SE's or feeders #8552
03/26/02 01:33 PM
03/26/02 01:33 PM
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grouser  Offline OP
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Greetings from a first time poster. I would like to hear some opinions on your prefered methods for running an underground service or feeder to a subpanel such as to a pole building or other out-building. Do you prefer 3 wire or 4 wire when you have a choice? Do you use a cable assembly or run individual conductors in conduit? What type of cable or conductors? CU or AL. I hear many different arguements on this one here in central Michigan, particularly on when you need 4 wire vs. 3 wire. Thanks for any input, Ed.

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Re: Prefered method for underground SE's or feeders #8553
03/26/02 01:55 PM
03/26/02 01:55 PM
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I prefer to use a 4 wire installation. It will remain in complince should a conductive path be established between both buildings sometime in the future.

I have rarely had to replace an underground feeder that was installed in a raceway. I have replaced or repaired quite a few direct buried cables, usually type USE, not UF. I think it usually comes down to workmanship (not nicking the insulation & making sure the first 6" of backfill is free of rocks). I'll personally stick with single conductors in a raceway.

Most folks will jump on the savings offered by Aluminum. Since I'm the one doing the pulling, I like it also. Workmanship is very important with Aluminum conductors. I haven't had any failures that I know about.



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Re: Prefered method for underground SE's or feeders #8554
03/26/02 03:43 PM
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What size feeders are you talking about?
I believe it is preferrable to run 4 wires and use a raceway. Just because something is acceptable, doesn't mean it is good design for considerations of maintenance and reliability.

Re: Prefered method for underground SE's or feeders #8555
03/26/02 08:32 PM
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Feeders would be sized for say a 60A. to 150A.load center or anything in between.

Re: Prefered method for underground SE's or feeders #8556
03/26/02 11:34 PM
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At that size, unless your running hundreds of feet, I can't think of any compelling reason, cost-wise, not to use 4 copper conductors in a raceway (possibly even oversizing the raceway for future considerations).

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