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http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/bills/intro/H-137.HTM This is a pending Bill in Vermont goverment. Had this been pursued decades ago AFCI's may not have been as popular as they are now up here. Since i have been here, the requirements of licensure have gone from 4 family to 3 family . No license is required for a 2-family, but it needs to pass inspection to gain an energizing permit. ( DYI'ers comically crash and burn here!)This bill would amount to similar circumstances for a single family dwelling. Ironically, organized labor has been the catalist of this, not the 'safety' section of our residents. Short version.... a wrong and a safety widget do not make a right.
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Sparky,
Does Vt have a definition of "living area" ?
I had heard that the original NEC wording "outlet" may be interpreted to include lighting too. Yours (Vt's) says "receptacle outlets" though. They'll probably change it to match the NEC
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Bill,
there is no definitions section to the VT rules. the AHJ makes the call. ever see a panel with 1/2 the noodles on breakers?, just did one....
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An update on my 7-17 legislation post. the Dept of Labor & Industry in Vermont ( where all our inspectors are) apparently will only back such legislation given more $$$ to hire more inspectors.
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Well like some of you I was wondering if besides Vermont, according to one of your links (sorry don't have it)that AFCI would be implemented in the 2002 NEC. Is that true and if so is it only in conjunction with GFCI or is it in replacement of GFCI. Lets get redundant!
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Resistor,
The AFCI requirement was written into the '99 NEC to take effect Jan 2002, Vt was just a year early.
Check 210-12 in the '99 NEC
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>is it only in conjunction with GFCI or is it in replacement of GFCI.
There is no redundancy. They are two different technologies. AFCI does not replace GFCI nor provide shock protection.
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Bill,
as to your 7-17 post....
210.12 Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter (AFCI) Protection
The word "receptacle" was deleted and the word "listed" was added. This subsection now extends AFCI protection to all 125V outlets in dwelling unit bedrooms, whereas the 1999 NEC only required AFCI protection for all branch circuits that supply 15 or 20A, 1-phase 125V receptacle outlets in dwelling unit bedrooms.
Only AFCI circuit breakers are listed for this purpose. AFCI receptacles, AFCI cord sets, or AFCI adapters will only protects the power supply cord connected to the AFCI device, it will protect the branch circuit conductors.
from Mike Holt's newsletters
i hope he does not mind, but it fits well in this thread
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In the last sentence of Mikes comment on AFCI, does the " it " refer to the AFCI CB or to an AFCI Recp. etc. plugged into a receptacle of an AFCI Branch Circuit CB?
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Mike meant:
Only AFCI circuit breakers are listed for this purpose. AFCI receptacles, AFCI cord sets, or AFCI adapters only protect the power supply cord connected to said AFCI device. Only an AFCI circuit breaker can protect the branch circuit conductors as required by this article.
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