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#75277 - 02/20/07 09:24 PM Boring NEC class  
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I talked the boss into buying Mike Holt's 2005 NEC videos so that me and the other guys could get together and watch them.

Since it was my idea, I am kinda in charge of organizing and scheduling the meetings.

The Mike Holt videos are very good. We are very satisfied with them but, to most people, the NEC is not very exciting.

I am trying to come up with some ideas as to how to make these gatherings more interesting. I have brought in new products, items to demo, etc but still not exciting to some of the guys. Is there any instructors that might have some suggestions? Or, has anyone attended any seminars or classes that could give me some ideas?

Brian


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#75278 - 02/20/07 10:22 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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You could turn it into a drinking game. Anytime he says the word "code", you have to take a drink. [Linked Image]

Or you could make it a competition. Play part of the video and ask questions of the group to see who know the answer before Mike.


Ron

#75279 - 02/20/07 10:53 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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"I am trying to come up with some ideas as to how to make these gatherings more interesting."

Show some of the violation photos, then let them tell you what is wrong, and then have them go to the code section, if they are still not intrested, pass out job applications for Wall Mart, no code needed to stock shelves.


#75280 - 02/20/07 11:52 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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Not much code needed to wire a Wal-Mart either from the looks of our local one [Linked Image]


#75281 - 02/21/07 02:48 AM Re: Boring NEC class  
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I second the 'no code needed to stock shelves' theory. I believe there's two kinds of electricians. Those who care about the NEC, and those that don't. Maybe printing out some code illustrations and hanging them up at the shop in a common area where employees can see them might help. Good luck.


#75282 - 02/21/07 08:10 AM Re: Boring NEC class  
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None of the other trades seem to worry about building codes, why should we?*

The framing inspectors, for instance, don't exactly go around and check to make sure 16D common nails were used to frame a house as code requires, or if as many are installed as required by code. Thus, the framers blisfully use 16D sinkers or coolers or whatever fits in their nailgun, oblivious that despide being a 16D nail, their substitute has different structural properties and their house is now full of structural defects and liable to collapse if it gets anywhere close to design load. And how many of us have seen plumbers go through and notch the hell out of structural studs and plates? Or done it yourselves?

* That was rhetorical, btw. And sarcastic

I may be a sick person for reading IRC through cover-to-cover and actually enjoying it, lol


#75283 - 02/21/07 06:52 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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Not much code needed to wire a Wal-Mart either from the looks of our local one


Do tell.....Any pics?

I'd say the same about the one they just built here....only problem is that they did a pretty decent job.

Peter


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#75284 - 02/21/07 09:22 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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I'll try to get some if my wife ever brings our digital camera back from her office... Lotsa cool stuff, pvc40 running in back of shelves with quad outlets running the holiday stuff when its up. Cord reels on the ceiling pulled down and running the TV aisle (temporary... suuuuuuuree! [Linked Image] )


#75285 - 02/21/07 10:16 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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I like the code violation picture idea. I might try asking for them to bring in code violation pictures.

Keep the ideas coming.

Thanks
Brian


#75286 - 02/21/07 11:40 PM Re: Boring NEC class  
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Why don't you have the meetings at Hooter's?


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