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#75277 02/20/07 09:24 PM
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I talked the boss into buying Mike Holt's 2005 NEC videos so that me and the other guys could get together and watch them.

Since it was my idea, I am kinda in charge of organizing and scheduling the meetings.

The Mike Holt videos are very good. We are very satisfied with them but, to most people, the NEC is not very exciting.

I am trying to come up with some ideas as to how to make these gatherings more interesting. I have brought in new products, items to demo, etc but still not exciting to some of the guys. Is there any instructors that might have some suggestions? Or, has anyone attended any seminars or classes that could give me some ideas?


#75278 02/20/07 10:22 PM
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You could turn it into a drinking game. Anytime he says the word "code", you have to take a drink. [Linked Image]

Or you could make it a competition. Play part of the video and ask questions of the group to see who know the answer before Mike.

#75279 02/20/07 10:53 PM
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"I am trying to come up with some ideas as to how to make these gatherings more interesting."

Show some of the violation photos, then let them tell you what is wrong, and then have them go to the code section, if they are still not intrested, pass out job applications for Wall Mart, no code needed to stock shelves.

#75280 02/20/07 11:52 PM
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Not much code needed to wire a Wal-Mart either from the looks of our local one [Linked Image]

#75281 02/21/07 02:48 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
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I second the 'no code needed to stock shelves' theory. I believe there's two kinds of electricians. Those who care about the NEC, and those that don't. Maybe printing out some code illustrations and hanging them up at the shop in a common area where employees can see them might help. Good luck.

#75282 02/21/07 08:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,213
None of the other trades seem to worry about building codes, why should we?*

The framing inspectors, for instance, don't exactly go around and check to make sure 16D common nails were used to frame a house as code requires, or if as many are installed as required by code. Thus, the framers blisfully use 16D sinkers or coolers or whatever fits in their nailgun, oblivious that despide being a 16D nail, their substitute has different structural properties and their house is now full of structural defects and liable to collapse if it gets anywhere close to design load. And how many of us have seen plumbers go through and notch the hell out of structural studs and plates? Or done it yourselves?

* That was rhetorical, btw. And sarcastic

I may be a sick person for reading IRC through cover-to-cover and actually enjoying it, lol

#75283 02/21/07 06:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Not much code needed to wire a Wal-Mart either from the looks of our local one

Do tell.....Any pics?

I'd say the same about the one they just built here....only problem is that they did a pretty decent job.


#75284 02/21/07 09:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
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I'll try to get some if my wife ever brings our digital camera back from her office... Lotsa cool stuff, pvc40 running in back of shelves with quad outlets running the holiday stuff when its up. Cord reels on the ceiling pulled down and running the TV aisle (temporary... suuuuuuuree! [Linked Image] )

#75285 02/21/07 10:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 257
I like the code violation picture idea. I might try asking for them to bring in code violation pictures.

Keep the ideas coming.


#75286 02/21/07 11:40 PM
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Why don't you have the meetings at Hooter's?

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