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208V questions #7470
02/06/02 06:57 PM
02/06/02 06:57 PM
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dugmaze  Offline OP
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My neighbor has three new baseboard heaters and wanted me to install them. They are 208V and I told him that they cannot be used. From my understanding, 208V is 220V three-phase to ground.

Am I correct?

Thanks in advance, Doug.

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Re: 208V questions #7471
02/06/02 07:18 PM
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resqcapt19  Offline
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Doug,
Are you sure that they are not dual rated 208/240? Most of them that I have seen are. The wattage is 25% less when on 208.
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Re: 208V questions #7472
02/06/02 10:00 PM
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Redsy  Offline
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The 208 that you refer to is the "high-leg" voltage to ground on a 240/120 volt 3 phase delta connected transformer secondary with on of the windings tapped at midpoint to provide 120 volts. The voltage of one of the phases, usually the "B" phase is about 208 and obviously should be avoided if connecting 120 volt equipment.
There is also a wye connected 208/120 3 phase system where all 3 phases are at 120 volts to ground.

Re: 208V questions #7473
02/06/02 10:37 PM
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dugmaze  Offline OP
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No, I double checked and it is only 208V. So if all I have is 120V single phase or 220V two phase then I can't wire this up.

Re: 208V questions #7474
02/07/02 07:04 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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I would not use 208 heaters at 240 volt. But, most of the ones I've seen are dual rated. If they are not dual rated, have him get 240 volt heaters.
BTW, you probably do not have two-phase voltage. It is very uncommon these days. You must mean 240 volt single phase with a neutral. This is the standard residential system.

Re: 208V questions #7475
02/07/02 08:21 AM
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bobc  Offline
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Doug,

Three phase 208 is derived from a four wire

wye connected transformer configuration .

120 volts to neutral,208 phase to phase

Re: 208V questions #7476
02/07/02 10:00 AM
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dugmaze  Offline OP
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Somebody must have bought these for a commercial building. Thanks for your help.

Re: 208V questions #7477
02/07/02 07:02 PM
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Steve Miller  Offline
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Doing a little basic Ohm's Law here (ignoring the fact that this is AC not DC) you'll find that a 5000 watt (I just used this value for comparison) 208v unit draws 24 amps and has ~8.67 Ohms resistance. The same unit at 240v would draw ~28 amps and put out 6720 watts (R basically stays the same). Their life span will be real short.


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