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I proposed this idea some time ago when the question came up as to whether a blank cover was a (required) lighting outlet.
Thanks to Roger and Alan Nadon I now have more to stand on when I say a blanked lighting outlet is still a lighting outlet to the NEC. Something which I have always believed to be true. Roger dug these out of the ROP. 1-38 Log #573 NEC-P01 Final Action: Reject (100.Lighting Outlet)
__________________________________________________ ___________ Submitter: Alan H. Nadon, City of Elkhart, IN
Recommendation: Revise as follows: Lighting Outlet. An outlet having intended for the direct connection of a lampholder, a luminaire (lighting fixture), or a pendant cord terminating in a lampholder, that is directly connected .
Substantiation: Intent cannot be determined during an inspection. A junction box with a blank cover, even one containing switched conductors, does not provide the illumination needed for persons to move about safely thus preventing accidents.
Panel Meeting Action: Reject 70-22 Report on Proposals A2007 — Copyright, NFPA NFPA 70
Panel Statement: The proposed definition would require a luminaire wherever a lighting outlet is installed. Code rules dictate where lighting is required. CMP-1 refers the submitter to the panel action and statement on Proposal 1-39.
Number Eligible to Vote: 12 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 12 2-251 Log #575 NEC-P02 Final Action: Reject (210.70) __________________________________________________ __________ Submitter: Alan H. Nadon, City of Elkhart, IN Recommendation: Revise as follows: 210.70 Lighting Outlets Required. Lighting outlets, that provide illumination, shall be installed where specified in 210.70(A), (B), (C). Substantiation: As currently worded, only 210.70(A)(2)(b) requires a lighting outlet to actually illuminate anything. The definition of a lighting outlet, in Article 100 does not require anything more than a junction box with switched conductors intended to be connected to a lampholder, light fixture, or pendent light. A proposal has also been submitted to change or amend the definition of lighting outlet. Proper illumination ensures safe movement for persons thus preventing many accidents. Panel Meeting Action: Reject Panel Statement: The objective of the NEC is to provide the requirement for the lighting outlet. The requirements specific to illumination are in the building code. Number Eligible to Vote: 12
Ballot Results: Affirmative: 12
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
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It says good for 5A (600W) and a 35LB fan.
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"No more expensive electricians and complicated electrical wiring to worry about" The same could be said for using candles. (And who is to put in the female receptacle which easily installs into your electrical outlet box?) "Will revolutionize the lighting industry" Sure it will. I'll bet a California Inspector enforcing the Energy Codes would just LOVE to see one of these installed.
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Bob, everything in the video was going great until that &#@&*# fan came into the picture. Wait, it did have a fixture on it didn't it Roger [This message has been edited by Roger (edited 10-02-2006).]
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I was just thinking the same thing as Scott, An EC that keeps a few title 24 "compliant" quicklights in the van just for inspection I guess its better than John Q Handyman changing the thing out after we've left
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It may say 35 lbs but i sure hope the box in the ceiling is a fan rated box.Also for residential work it must be impossible to use with a pancake box. Im all for new things but i have a big questionmark on this product.
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I assume ver 1.01 will have a neon connected across the receptacle so you know it is turned on before you plug in the fan and it knocks you off the ladder.
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