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Inside A Chimney Chase #59989
12/20/05 03:38 PM
12/20/05 03:38 PM
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Old Town  Offline OP
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Dallas,TX USA
I need to run a 120V receptacle circuit and a 3/4" stub up for low voltage down a chimney space. They (the owner) say the chimney is built with double wall flue with 8-10" airspace, and then then the two courses of brick. I have no idea what the ambient temp would be in this chase. Sounds easy enough. Has anyone here ever done this? I have seen receptacles on masonary hearths but they were all new construction, never old work.

Thanks in advance.

Ty

[This message has been edited by Old Town (edited 12-20-2005).]

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Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59990
12/20/05 03:41 PM
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Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59991
12/20/05 04:01 PM
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are you talking about between the flue and the brick? My guess is that it would be hot.

Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59992
12/20/05 04:22 PM
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Old Town  Offline OP
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Yes, it will be between the flue and the brick. I am starting to wonder if I want to do this one or not. I don't think the ambient temp will really get that hot, but I am not sure.

Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59993
12/20/05 04:47 PM
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I don't think you have enough information to make an informed decision. If there is no draft stopping and ambient air can follow the conduit up the chimney space I would not expect much temperature rise but if this is only open at the top your mileage will vary, based on how much makeup air could displace the hot air that exits.
It may not get hot enough to support combustion but you have to start derating at 86f/30c.
At a combined temp (ambient plus I2R heating) of 90c/194f your THHN insulation may start failing.


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Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59994
12/20/05 09:00 PM
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I'm not sure, but it seems to me that putting anything in that air-space would violate the fire code. I think that space must be kept absolutely clear.

Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59995
12/20/05 09:35 PM
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ShockMe77  Offline
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I have never run any type wire on the inside of a chimney.

Never.

Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59996
12/20/05 11:34 PM
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Old Town  Offline OP
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Dallas,TX USA
Update:

I removed a brick above the mantle and I found this:
Behind the brick , a 2 1/2" space between the brick and sheetrock. Behind the sheetrock is an additional 8" and then a double flue setup. I can easily run flex behind the brick. What do y'all think. Thanks in advance.

Ty

Re: Inside A Chimney Chase #59997
12/21/05 02:45 AM
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DougW  Offline
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North Chicago, IL
[fallback answer] Check with your AHJ [/fallback answer]

I have no idea how hot it would get in there, but I'd consider using 90 degree C wire instead of 75.


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