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#54981 08/13/05 07:38 AM
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I've never been satisfied with wrapping a stranded wire around a screw, so I typically pull stranded wire, then make up the devices with solid pigtails.

+1 on e57s comments. I wouldn't be buying these at 10% of their price. I'm sure they'll survive (somehow) without my business.

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I have to say, not directed at anyone particular, but what narrow minded bunch you are. As ususal quick to bash a product none of you has ever held in your hand let alone used. Good thing Thomas Edison had a better attitude or we'd all be making candles for a living.

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Scott I think it was mostly the price that turned the troops off.
You can actually hold one for free, there is a place on the web site to get a sample. The second one costs $25.

BTW if we really listened to Edison we would be using DC today.


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I think it was mostly the price that turned the troops off.

Well the price turned some of us off but in general I agree with Scott that many seem unwilling to try new things.


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If contractors don't use quality receptacles in the first place ( 40 cents apiece, residential quality ) what would make anyone think that they can get 20 bucks for one with a pig tail. That's more than the profit on a lot of new spec. homes. When the idea is to wire as cheap as possible ( trim that last dollar ), why add a device that adds to the cost with no real advantages. This device looks more like some of the fising lures that are meant to catch the fisherman and not the fish.

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If they started at $19.50 for a box of 10, I'd consider them. Yikes!!!


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That's more than the profit on a lot of new spec. homes. When the idea is to wire as cheap as possible ( trim that last dollar ), why add a device that adds to the cost with no real advantages.

I doubt highly this is aimed at dwelling units.

If they can get the price more in line with what we pay for our spec grade devices I am sure we would use them.

In the jobs we do it's less about material costs and more about how fast can we get the certificate of occupancy.




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I agree that these are more commercial (or large job) oriented at this time.


If these were purchased in a package or "buy out" for a large job (say 500 receptacles or more) verses an industrial spec grade receptacle, I would venture to say they would be very competitive in price.

On the other hand, there's no competing with the deal(s) on this receptacle , take note of the savings when bought in quantity. [Linked Image]

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I use my imagination prior to purchases. What do I come up with on this one?

Damaged pigtails that need replacing on final. That doubles the cost of expensive materials and adds labor, reducing my profit. In a situation that doesn't involve sheetrock this might be the perfect product.

I'm a big believer in using the best materials (QO over Homeline), but I'll pass on this one.

Dave

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I was always willing to try new products when they came on the market when I was in Business.
However the cost of an item is one of the big reasons for either using a product or not.
Another thought comes to mind with this new product, what about closed boxes. The ones that get covered up by the rockers. If the recptacle had one of these products your circuit would still work and you might not even know that you are missing an outlet.

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