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#36650 04/12/04 11:45 AM
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Imagine an Allen head screw with a square recess instead of a hexagonal one.

These things are great! Square D is using them on their panelboards now, on the terminal screws and the panel cover screws.

#36651 04/12/04 12:08 PM
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My security bit set has some square drive bits in there, I figured they were just another type of tamper-resistant fastener; didn't know they were so common. If they are as slick as they sound, I wouldn't mind seeing them replace the philips and flathead in some locations....

-John

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I work in metal stud buildings, when the carpenters have to attach would trim to the metal studs the use a square drive self drilling screw that has a very small head, almost as small as a finish nail head.

These guys do go through a lot of square drive tips but that is only because of the very small size of the square compared to the size of the screw.

Bob


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#36653 04/12/04 12:48 PM
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Started using them at my (now defunct) "main job" after my foreman showed me how easy they were.

Most of the newer fitings have a combo slot/phillips/robertson head on them.

They're great if you're forced to work at an angle, as they'll stay in, rather than jump like a straight or phillips will. they're grat with power drivers, too... my buddy (fence & decking guy) has been using them for his work for years. He's surprised it took so long for them to "come indoors"

#36654 04/12/04 01:06 PM
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I use them for wood working.

C-H go here.
http://www.robertsonscrew.com/

Roger

#36655 04/12/04 04:10 PM
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They are nothing new. They come in three sizes, r-1 r-2 r-3, and have been in use in mobile homes and rv for many years. I have now seen them for building decks, and more and more in the electrical industry


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#36656 04/12/04 04:52 PM
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don't you boys have a 10 in one. if so you have one

#36657 04/12/04 05:08 PM
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We don't have Robertson screws over here, but we do have a system known under the name Pozi-Driv which has been around for 30-odd years.

The heads look similar to Philips at first glance, but have extra, shallower flutes at the 45-degree points between the main slots, and a slightly rounded center section in place of the straight cross of Philips.

#36658 04/12/04 05:44 PM
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Paul, do you remember GKN Supadriv screws? you needed a special screwdriver although Pozidriv screwdrivers fitted, as I recall they had more of a snub nose than Pozidriz, I wonder what happened to them.

#36659 04/12/04 05:53 PM
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I've been using a Robertson driver for about 7 years. Neer setscrew conduit fittings have had a universal head on their setscrews for a long time and the square option works the best. Robertson deck screws have been common around here for quite a while too. Most collated deck screws are Robertson as well as collated drywall screws. As someone said, Square D panels and breakers have used Robertson screw heads for quite a while and Siemens and GE have offered them in their panels too in recent years. I like them.

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