ECN Forum Forums General Topics of the Trade General Discussion Area Never Say No To Joe!!

Joe,

To whom does one complain about such stuff, the Hotel chain headquarters? The stuffed shirt sitting in the hotel office? The person that cleans the rooms?
In today's way of thinking (most people) are if it doesn't affect me , then h*** with it.
I think personally it is a waste of your time to complain about things like this, cause it probably won't be "fixed right" anyway!....
Tiffany

Methinks the only way to get anyone's attention on this matter is to contact the Risk Management office of the enterprise and the insurance agency that carries their policy as well as the Fire Dept. that would respond. If you get the attention of these folks, perhaps they'd understand that the deficient service and equipment represents a "catastrophe waiting to happen" of the magnitude they certainly want to avoid. My impression is that hotel fires are absolutely awful in terms of toxic output, speed of fire growth, low recovery rate of persons due to larger populations and inacessible areas. The payout from an insurance perspective must be phenomenal, too.

Having been involved with building a few of the big chains accommodations I think
BuggabooBren has it right it has got to look like it will cost them and they will still stall.
Quality is not job 1 here; cost and how it looks are at the top.

Joe,

Still bugged by those hotel rooms eh? Wasn't there a picture of you holding a 4" sq box with receptacle falling apart? Anyway, I would let the hotel manager know that when you leave the hotel, you will send a message to the local fire prevention board. Maybe if they won't listen to you, then maybe a summons from the local fire prevention people might do the trick. Either that or complain that you just recieved a shock from a loose receptacle in your hotel room. Ask the manager for the phone number of the local OSHA office. See if that gets their attention.

Harold

Unless Joe were an employee of said Hotel, calling OSHA would be pointless. The big O stands for "occupational".

(on a slightly different subject)
Hi, Joe; Is ECN experiencing internet problems again? I've been having trouble connecting this morning. Hope that clown didn't climb up that pole again.

Mike (mamills)

A simple suggestion to avoid these problems: Tough quality standards for electrical material. If it's crap, it shouldn't be sold. It's that simple. Top quality receptacles can be made, many times better than the low price crap. (Hell, I even wrote and asked one quality manufacturer to make the receptacles safe with the cover taken off. The answer was "We're working on it" Not on the market yet, despite the fact that it's easy to design)

The problem is that the only criterion for most people is price. The principle of free market just doesn't work in this case.

Mike,

The server did go down today for some reason for about an hour before noon EST. I haven't heard why yet.

Bill

that's got my vote C-H