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What in Tarnation?
What in Tarnation?
by timmp, September 10
Plumber meets Electrician
Plumber meets Electrician
by timmp, September 10
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Reno:
Sorry...I meant "FRS", but...typed 'FRP'




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John, it's nothing personal - or even really aimed at you at all.

I haunt a number of forums, and it's amazing some of the misconceptions and mis-identifications that are out there. Sometimes I get overly detailed in my posts, because I'm thinking of some bits of confusion I've encountered elsewhere.

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Hey, isn't that a 3 phase panel? Is this a commercial location? It's one thing to find that in a residence, but in a commercial facility!!!!

Gus99 #189010 09/15/09 10:14 AM
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I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this in a non-residential setting.
That's generally where the attitude of "get it done NOW" and "get it done CHEAP" are all too common.

I seem to remember a posting on this board about an electrical closet with a transformer that was fed by cables laying on the floor that were fed by an open panel with 'protective cardboard' over the live bus...and THAT particular installation was many months old.


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If it is a 3 phase panel, another issue is the use of white for grounds or the tieing of the green ground wire to the neutral block.

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Good eye, Gus!

Yes, it is a 3-phase panel. The arrangement of the neutral buss leads me to suspect that this is a dayed panel; it looks like a "Myers" panel I encountered on another job, which would use Cutler-Hammer breakers as replacements.

This was probably installed long before there even were ground wires. I would suspect that the wall is masonry, and the back of the panel simply rusted apart. The wood is a repair.

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