ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
Video door bell causing chime activation of coil
by crselectric. 12/16/18 02:12 PM
Our Company!
by faradaygroup. 12/15/18 09:23 PM
Pull out fuse panel?
by wa2ise. 12/14/18 05:09 PM
Conduit fill Calculations
by gfretwell. 12/08/18 08:39 PM
Swimming Pool question
by HotLine1. 12/05/18 12:37 PM
New in the Gallery:
What is this for?
Plug terminals
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 9 guests, and 13 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments #186068
04/14/09 09:19 PM
04/14/09 09:19 PM
Y
Yoopersup  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 849
Michigan
Hospital Grade Receptacles required per Nec in Patient Bed Locations/.
Exam rooms at Doctors offices are NOT Patient Bed Locations.
Exam tables Doctors offices come with Hospital Grade Plugs feeding Hospital Grade Outlets on theses Exam tables.

Code then as I see says Hosptal Grade Outlets NOT required.
BUT Listing & Lableing of Exam table does.
Interesting . Yoopersup


2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: Yoopersup] #186070
04/14/09 09:48 PM
04/14/09 09:48 PM
L
luckyshadow  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 315
Maryland USA
Yep thats about the way it is.
Watch out for those dental chairs also. I've been seeing ones that have a tag on them that require they be plugged into a Hospital Grade Receptacle

Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: luckyshadow] #186083
04/15/09 08:58 AM
04/15/09 08:58 AM
HotLine1  Offline

Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,050
Brick, NJ USA
Equip mfg specs on most (if not all) medical equipment I have seen require HG receptacles to match the HG cord cap.

Most EC's here just put them in as SOP. Our hospital stocks ALL HG devices, so there can be no 'mistakes'.



John
Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: HotLine1] #186088
04/15/09 05:22 PM
04/15/09 05:22 PM
G
George Little  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,493
Michigan USA
Yep I agree with the need for Hospital Grade receptacles in these areas where the equipment is equipped with Hospital Grade caps. I think it should also be mentioned that the redundant ground conductor is required whether or not the receptacle is Hospital Grade or not. Of course we all knew that, but it's the weasel in me that had to say it smile


George Little
Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: HotLine1] #186093
04/15/09 10:50 PM
04/15/09 10:50 PM
L
leland  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 853
Lowell area, Ma. USA
Originally Posted by HotLine1
Equip mfg specs on most (if not all) medical equipment I have seen require HG receptacles to match the HG cord cap.

Most EC's here just put them in as SOP. Our hospital stocks ALL HG devices, so there can be no 'mistakes'.



But... Is the wiring all HG? Thats the question.
An HG recep not wired properly can be trouble.

Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: leland] #186094
04/16/09 08:21 AM
04/16/09 08:21 AM
HotLine1  Offline

Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,050
Brick, NJ USA
Le:
Yes, HCF is installed. It's checked on Plan Review & field checked on inspections.

George:
Come on now!....I once had a guy spray paint BX green..LOL


John
Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: HotLine1] #186099
04/16/09 03:20 PM
04/16/09 03:20 PM
E
EV607797  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
I have a question along the same lines, but somewhat unrelated: It used to be that phone jacks in patient rooms where oxygen was in use were required to be wired for the RJ17C standard. Does anybody know if that still applies?


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: EV607797] #186114
04/17/09 01:54 PM
04/17/09 01:54 PM
M
mikesh  Offline
Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 613
Victoria, BC, Canada
In Canada a Doctors exam room, a dentists chair and even a psychiatrists couch are patient care locations. (I know it is a bit of overkill) and have to be wired as for patient care for any device located within 5 feet (1.5M) of the bed. Hospital grade receptacles and equipotential wiring are all required.

Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: mikesh] #186119
04/18/09 02:40 PM
04/18/09 02:40 PM
Y
Yoopersup  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 849
Michigan
Part VI 517.80
Try that for a start.

Re: Hospital Grade Receptacles your comments [Re: Yoopersup] #186132
04/21/09 02:15 AM
04/21/09 02:15 AM
G
George Little  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,493
Michigan USA
Ernie- You just caught my attention about the communications wiring in Hospitals. In the State of Michigan you do not need a license or any training to install communication wiring in buildings. To make matters worse, you are exempt from permits and inspections. Now that will give you a warm fuzzy feeling next time your in the OR. I can't believe the telecommunication people and the lobbyist were able to pull that off but they did.


George Little

Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
Lostazhell
Lostazhell
Bakersfield, CA (Originally Orange Co.)
Posts: 1,431
Joined: February 2004
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Popular Topics(Views)
252,249 Are you busy
189,203 Re: Forum
178,888 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.032s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 1.0121 MB (Peak: 1.1951 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-12-16 22:19:03 UTC