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Re: Fixture Support #185666 03/23/09 08:58 PM
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Found on the roof of a local starbux; it all sits on a TB supported by a piece of ½-inch EMT...

They look like a pair of 500W quartz-halogen fixtures.

How would you "bring this up to code"?


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: Admin] #185670 03/23/09 09:41 PM
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renosteinke Offline
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Just where is the violation?

OK, maybe there's a fill issue in the conduit body ... but using a Bell box would not change the support issue one bit.

The fixtures arefairlylightweight, and the length of the mast isn't very much.

Cheap? Schlock? Absolutely- but I think it meets code.

Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke] #185672 03/23/09 10:51 PM
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electure Offline
It's a violation of the support required by 314.23(F).

Re: Fixture Support [Re: electure] #185674 03/24/09 01:01 AM
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renosteinke Offline
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Good catch, Electure! So.... rigidis OK for this use, but not EMT.

Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke] #185677 03/24/09 09:38 AM
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ghost307 Offline
Is there anough room inside the T to legally make up the splices?

Re: Fixture Support [Re: ghost307] #185927 04/04/09 11:39 PM
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packrat56 Offline
I agree ghost307, that's a good question.

I have a sense of adventure, I just keep it leashed with common sense.
Re: Fixture Support [Re: packrat56] #186141 04/21/09 05:24 PM
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mxslick Offline
As long as you don't exceed the fill percentage of the fitting, you can make splices in them. I can't recall the Code section offhand though...

I have seen splices in T-fittings before, they seem to fit ok without too much drama.

Stupid should be painful.
Re: Fixture Support [Re: mxslick] #186143 04/21/09 05:56 PM
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mikesh Offline
some conduit bodies are approved for a splice some are not and I don't know the differences.

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Re: Fixture Support [Re: mikesh] #186150 04/22/09 12:57 AM
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frenchelectrican Offline
If they have the CU IN stamped inside the TB conduit body then yeah it can be used for splices otherwise no it can not be used for splices but I know some guys do used the oversied TB bodies for it and install the reduced bushing in there to make room for splices.


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: frenchelectrican] #186156 04/22/09 10:59 AM
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leland Offline
I've used the 'over size' method a few times.mainly for parking garage light retros'


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