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#185666 - 03/23/09 09:58 PM Re: Fixture Support  
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Found on the roof of a local starbux; it all sits on a TB supported by a piece of ½-inch EMT...

They look like a pair of 500W quartz-halogen fixtures.

How would you "bring this up to code"?

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#185670 - 03/23/09 10:41 PM Re: Fixture Support [Re: Admin]  
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Just where is the violation?

OK, maybe there's a fill issue in the conduit body ... but using a Bell box would not change the support issue one bit.

The fixtures arefairlylightweight, and the length of the mast isn't very much.

Cheap? Schlock? Absolutely- but I think it meets code.


#185672 - 03/23/09 11:51 PM Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke]  
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It's a violation of the support required by 314.23(F).


#185674 - 03/24/09 02:01 AM Re: Fixture Support [Re: electure]  
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Good catch, Electure! So.... rigidis OK for this use, but not EMT.


#185677 - 03/24/09 10:38 AM Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke]  
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Is there anough room inside the T to legally make up the splices?


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#185927 - 04/05/09 12:39 AM Re: Fixture Support [Re: ghost307]  
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I agree ghost307, that's a good question.


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#186141 - 04/21/09 06:24 PM Re: Fixture Support [Re: packrat56]  
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As long as you don't exceed the fill percentage of the fitting, you can make splices in them. I can't recall the Code section offhand though...

I have seen splices in T-fittings before, they seem to fit ok without too much drama.


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#186143 - 04/21/09 06:56 PM Re: Fixture Support [Re: mxslick]  
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some conduit bodies are approved for a splice some are not and I don't know the differences.

Last edited by mikesh; 04/21/09 06:56 PM. Reason: spelling

#186150 - 04/22/09 01:57 AM Re: Fixture Support [Re: mikesh]  
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If they have the CU IN stamped inside the TB conduit body then yeah it can be used for splices otherwise no it can not be used for splices but I know some guys do used the oversied TB bodies for it and install the reduced bushing in there to make room for splices.

Merci,Marc


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#186156 - 04/22/09 11:59 AM Re: Fixture Support [Re: frenchelectrican]  
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I've used the 'over size' method a few times.mainly for parking garage light retros'



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