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VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING #181987
11/14/08 11:59 AM
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GETELECTRIC  Offline OP
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We have recently installed vfd's in exixting circuits and now one of the motors has burned out and they are blaming our VFD. The vfd s are not even programmed to do any control as of yet just off and on.
Can it be the VFD the controls company is saying that our VFD's are causing a voltage across the bearings?

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Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC] #181990
11/14/08 02:04 PM
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What is the motor driving? Is there any chance voltage is getting transferred to the motor shaft?
I really don't see this being a VFD problem.


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Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: gfretwell] #181994
11/14/08 08:26 PM
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That isn't logical.

However, blaming the competition for everything from bearings to bad weather is quite normal.

Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC] #181995
11/14/08 09:12 PM
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I vaguely remember reading something about this in a trade magazine (maybe EC&M). As I recall, it has to do with current spikes from the VFD's output inducing a voltage on the motor shaft via the windings, and the current arcing across the bearings and burning them.

Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC] #181996
11/14/08 09:22 PM
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Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: Albert] #181997
11/14/08 10:28 PM
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Thanks Albert

Another timely subject! Got a call this afternoon regarding a sewage lift station pump/VFD/panel meltdown, on a 'fairly new' install. That's Mondays problem child. This PDF may be interesting reading.



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Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: HotLine1] #181999
11/14/08 10:58 PM
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interesting stuff. Surprised me.


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Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: gfretwell] #182000
11/14/08 11:36 PM
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I recall this conversation not too long ago.

Wait For RENO Or Frenchelectrician. I believe they have the skinny on it.

Yes it did have something to do with induction.

Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: leland] #182009
11/15/08 01:41 PM
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I think the real answer is the EMI filter mentioned in the article. I would be surprised that a decent VFD wouldn't have that, just for FCC compliance.


Greg Fretwell
Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: leland] #182011
11/15/08 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the vote of confidence ... but the issue is beyond my experience.

I've only seen bearings damaged by current flow, either through a fault condition, or when someone did some welding on the machine.

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