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No Sparkies Needed here! #178578
06/05/08 05:35 PM
06/05/08 05:35 PM
renosteinke  Offline OP
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I've been busy getting a restaurant ready for a new owner. As far as I was concerned, my part of the job was limited to installing some steam tables ... no other changes were to be done.

Yea. Right.

No sooner had the inspector left, than the owner did some 'midnight electric' himself. Here's what I found on opening day:

At first glance, a nice sushi bar. The only problem is that there were no receptacles for either the sushi cooler, or that Pepsi cooler.

[Linked Image]


A closer look in the corner makes one suspicious ....

[Linked Image]

Our first code problem is the use of an extension cord as a replacement for permanent wiring. Looking behind the sushi cooler, and we're on to problem #2, the issue of disconnection:

[Linked Image]

Let's look closer at the ceiling penetrations; there's an issue about the cords being subjected to damage:

[Linked Image]

The cords enter the attic, where you see this lovely run to a receptacle placed for the servicing of the HVAC gear:

[Linked Image]

You can see the orange cords so artfully draped over the very pipes, etc., that you're going to need to walk / crawl upon. No attachment, no zip ties, no effort to run them in a less exposed manner.

Last edited by renosteinke; 06/05/08 05:36 PM.
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Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: renosteinke] #178581
06/05/08 05:59 PM
06/05/08 05:59 PM
Theelectrikid  Offline
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Posts: 810
Levittown, PA
"Cheapness pervades the place."

Ian A.


Is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: Theelectrikid] #178589
06/05/08 08:22 PM
06/05/08 08:22 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Posts: 6,917
Brick, NJ USA
Seems like there is always 'things' that show up 'after' the inspection. Storefront (interior) neon boarders and signs; the 'center tables' that were not in the food prep area; the scale, cash register, meat slicer. Liquor stores are good for a whole bunch of interior window beer signs, and sparky only installed a duplex! Some food places 'add' things five minutes after I do the final inspection; others may wait a day..assuming I won't be back!

Should have been an extension cord and cube tap salesman.



John
Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: HotLine1] #178591
06/05/08 08:55 PM
06/05/08 08:55 PM
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WESTUPLACE  Offline
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Kingwood, TX USA
At least it is sprinklered!

Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: WESTUPLACE] #178600
06/06/08 03:38 AM
06/06/08 03:38 AM
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Texas_Ranger  Offline
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Posts: 2,409
Vienna, Austria
My company (electrical planning) recently had a school where the maint. electreician started ripping down new stuff even before the project was officially finished... of course the electrician who did the original work screamed bloody murder and said they voided his entire liability for the original work by messing around with it.

Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: Texas_Ranger] #178755
06/10/08 08:07 PM
06/10/08 08:07 PM
electure  Offline

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Fullerton, CA USA
Is that the factory cord on the sushi cooler?

Sure is a l-o-n-g one if it is crazy

Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: electure] #178756
06/10/08 08:19 PM
06/10/08 08:19 PM
renosteinke  Offline OP
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Scott, I wondered about that ... it sure looks like it, with a molded on plug.

FWIW, the previous Sushi cooler I found this guy using has a two-wire cord, with a ground wire added on later, and run along the outside of the zip cord .... secured by tape every foot or so. I think I had you post it a few years back.


Edit: I found the original pics, and have edited them ... to showcase the fine workmanship frown Different jobsite, same customer:

[Linked Image]

And I do NOT remember how the ground wire was terminated:

[Linked Image]

Last edited by renosteinke; 06/10/08 09:13 PM.
Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: renosteinke] #178758
06/10/08 09:25 PM
06/10/08 09:25 PM
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djk  Offline
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Posts: 1,237
Ireland
Japan uses a version of the NEMA 15amp outlet, but it's not quite the same.

The two pins are of equal size, non polarised and there are slightly different spec.

Most Japanese outlets are not grounded, so appliances like Washing Machines and cooking equipment has a seperate ground lead that is connected to a bonding post on the end of the outlet.

They also use 100V 50Hz/60Hz.. not 110-120V 60Hz as in north america.


Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: djk] #178821
06/12/08 08:11 PM
06/12/08 08:11 PM
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djk  Offline
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Japanese outlet:

[Linked Image]

Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: djk] #178830
06/12/08 09:51 PM
06/12/08 09:51 PM
renosteinke  Offline OP
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Thanks, Dave ... that explains a lot!

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