ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
VDE 0100 to introduce AFCIs
by sparky. 01/20/18 05:09 PM
MRI LED lights dimmer control replacement - wow!
by Potseal. 01/19/18 08:52 PM
Video: Inventor of the GFCI self-testing shocks
by Bill Addiss. 01/17/18 11:11 PM
FPE in Germany
by HotLine1. 01/17/18 07:07 PM
Fujifilm Recalls Power Adapter Wall Plugs
by Admin. 01/16/18 07:04 PM
New in the Gallery:
Housebilding DIY wiring
SE cable question
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 7 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Clearance Issues #174913
02/16/08 10:25 PM
02/16/08 10:25 PM
Admin  Offline
OP
Administrator
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,481
NY, USA
Quote
Called out for a bid on service change. Never seen a right angle meter base adaptor (I guess thats what you call it). Barely enough room to stand in front of panel.

Mark B.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
Re: Clearance Issues [Re: Admin] #174926
02/17/08 12:29 PM
02/17/08 12:29 PM
A
Alan Nadon  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 399
Elkhart, IN. USA
Looks like the panel needs a 90 degree adapter also. smile


Alan--
If it was easy, anyone could do it.
Re: Clearance Issues [Re: Alan Nadon] #174931
02/17/08 01:16 PM
02/17/08 01:16 PM
L
leland  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 853
Lowell area, Ma. USA
I imagine no permit on the addition.

Re: Clearance Issues [Re: leland] #174954
02/18/08 05:56 AM
02/18/08 05:56 AM
T
Texas_Ranger  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,409
Vienna, Austria
That's not a working space violation any more, that's plain old lack of any common sense!

Re: Clearance Issues [Re: Texas_Ranger] #174959
02/18/08 12:22 PM
02/18/08 12:22 PM
E
EV607797  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
I will say that I've seen those right angle adapters in downtown Fredericksburg, VA where older buildings were built so close together back in the 1930-1950 era. There weren't a lot of rules back then. The existing building was fine, but the new building was allowed to be put up with only two feet between them. The power company used to be a city utility at the time and welcomed any kind of new development, so they didn't dare make existing building owners move their services.

Now that their electric utility has been sold for decades, the current poco has been known to use these adapters since their readers can't fit in those spaces, not to mention the fact that these alleys are full of you know what.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
Re: Clearance Issues [Re: EV607797] #174970
02/18/08 06:54 PM
02/18/08 06:54 PM
L
leland  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 853
Lowell area, Ma. USA
Heres another one for you.

100A 3P emergency panel. 120/208

[Linked Image]

(Still working on my computer skills, ARRRGGG)

Last edited by leland; 02/18/08 06:55 PM. Reason: I'm a moron!
Re: Clearance Issues [Re: leland] #174971
02/18/08 07:22 PM
02/18/08 07:22 PM
L
leland  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 853
Lowell area, Ma. USA
This is the outside look, from the stairwell landing.

[Linked Image]

Re: Clearance Issues [Re: leland] #174991
02/19/08 07:47 AM
02/19/08 07:47 AM
electure  Offline

Member
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,264
Fullerton, CA USA
Is the clearance issue really an issue? Some food for thought.

In the 1953 NEC the minimum horizontal working space clearance is given as 1-1/2 feet, measured from the live parts to a not grounded or live surface.

In the 1975 NEC, the same conditions under 600 volts was
2-1/2 feet.

It wasn't until the 1978 Edition of the NEC that it was increased to 3 feet.

Re: Clearance Issues [Re: electure] #174999
02/19/08 11:09 AM
02/19/08 11:09 AM
T
Texas_Ranger  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,409
Vienna, Austria
Don't know... to me it rather looks like 1 foot and not 1 1/2 but the picture might be deceiving.

As for the age of the addition... the 5 panel door on the addition looks older than the main house, so they might have used scrounged parts... no idea.

Re: Clearance Issues [Re: Texas_Ranger] #175005
02/19/08 12:01 PM
02/19/08 12:01 PM
S
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,328
Alaska
He got a point, the version of NEC applies to when it was installed. This what makes code enforcement "fun" crazy


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
HappyElectrician
HappyElectrician
Penn USA
Posts: 31
Joined: December 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 20
sparky 16
Potseal 15
Popular Topics(Views)
243,576 Are you busy
180,374 Re: Forum
170,850 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.035s Queries: 16 (0.006s) Memory: 1.0253 MB (Peak: 1.2065 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-01-21 10:16:23 UTC