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Bath circuits #173871
01/21/08 04:55 PM
01/21/08 04:55 PM
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derater  Offline OP
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As I understand it, one may use a 20a circuit in a bathroom for all needs, provided it serves that space only; correct ? Does this include heat if it falls within load range ?

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Re: Bath circuits [Re: derater] #173873
01/21/08 05:38 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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Oddly true. It is a horrible design but you could put one of those 1000w fan/heat/light combos on the bathroom circuit with the basin receptacle if you only serve one bathroom.


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Re: Bath circuits [Re: derater] #173874
01/21/08 05:39 PM
01/21/08 05:39 PM
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leland  Offline
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Yes, The ckt must remain in that bathroom.For lights ex fan etc. thats ok.
As far as the heat goes.. NO.
See: 210.23 (A) Exception.

edit: Greg your fast.
fan/lite/heat combo would be a fixture.

I was thinking wall heat

Last edited by leland; 01/21/08 05:42 PM.
Re: Bath circuits [Re: derater] #173875
01/21/08 05:42 PM
01/21/08 05:42 PM
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russ m  Offline
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210.23 (A) allows the only receptacle outlets to be the ones specified in 210.11 (C3).
Unless this is a portable unit, the heat would have to be wired direct and is limited to 50% of the circuit.

Re: Bath circuits [Re: russ m] #173876
01/21/08 05:43 PM
01/21/08 05:43 PM
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leland  Offline
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See: 210.23 (A) Exception.

I read that to disallow. 210.23(A) 1 & 2 for these areas.

Last edited by leland; 01/21/08 05:44 PM.
Re: Bath circuits [Re: leland] #173877
01/21/08 05:50 PM
01/21/08 05:50 PM
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KJay  Offline
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Yes to the first part of you question. Without specific info, I would say no to the second part.
See 2008 NEC 210.11[C][3] exception, which refers to 210.23[A] exception, and 210.23[A][2]. Even if you could, you would be limited to 50% of the branch circuit rating. According to 424.3 though, fixed electric space heating would be a continuous load.
I think most manufactures even recommend an individual branch circuit for the infrared or combo heat/light/vent units as well. smile
I don’t think it would leave much capacity for those Mega hair dryers and curling irons that all the ladies seem to use these days.

Re: Bath circuits [Re: KJay] #173878
01/21/08 05:59 PM
01/21/08 05:59 PM
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leland  Offline
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(Kjay) "See 2008 NEC"

Wow! I dodged a bullet there.
Good thing no change from '05.

I'm gonna get the new '08 on Tuesday! Before I get in a jam.:)


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