Okay, VE. Bidding a job today; POCO requires, for their primary, EB duct, in concrete, chairs @ 10' max apart w/ re-bar stakes, #3 rebar @ 4 corners, 3' long. Job Specs- Sch 80, red concrete @ 10lbs per cu yd. #5 re-bar @ 4 corners, entire length, and down the 4 faces, # a #5 rebar wrap at least every 18". The duct is 1800' long. I offer a VE savings; I think POCO knows what they need... However, I do agree that sometimes it is cutting corners, sometimes a total underminding of the intended quality of the job.