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#139685 12/06/03 05:18 AM
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djk Offline OP
I was just wondering if anyone else has statistics on fires caused by electrical installations / electrical appliences in their areas.

Here are the stats for Cork City and Sorrounds (aprox 356,000 ppl although the city limits only include 125,000 i.e. the suburbs are not counted)

Year / Electrical Installations / Total callouts

1998: Electrical and Other Equipment (excludes fixed wiring)

Electric Cooking / Heating Appliences: 51/1697
(Oil:37, Gas:3, Solid Fuel: 0)

(Pressure jet oil heating was quite common in the 50s,60s and early 70s so many boilers in use would be quite aging and are always located in their own boiler house away from the house and thus tend to cause unnoticed fires often because ppl store things beside/ontop of them!)
(It's supprising Gas heating/cooking causes so few incidents though! Gas heated waterfilled radiator systems are by far the most common type of heating in use in this city)

Equipment: Electrical: 32/1697

Source: Cork City Fire Department, Ireland

Seem higher/lower/average?

(From my own personal experience of having to call out Cork city fire department they are extremely effective. They were at the scene within 2 mins of the call and had the fire (a very large bin on a street that someone had thrown a cigerette into) extinguished with in 4-5 mins of the call!)

[This message has been edited by djk (edited 12-06-2003).]

#139686 12/07/03 04:52 AM
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I haven't seen any statistics for this area.

I wonder, though, whether wiring and electrical faults are blamed when no other cause can be found?

#139687 12/30/03 02:35 AM
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Sorry to hold out so long on you, with this particular subject, it's one that I am very much a fan of, but it's also a thing of submitting the correct information.
I have been looking at FireNet (the internal New Zealand Fire Service WAN) and I can only get figures for the whole of NZ.
But what is there, is really well presented figures.
Could I please ask that I send the info to you as a PDF file?.
As there is far too much info for me to disect at this point in time?.
Sorry, but I am just too over-worked at the moment. [Linked Image]

#139688 12/30/03 02:57 AM
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But I must say that I agree, in part, with Paul.
With the use of Non-Operational Staff, as Fire Safety Officers, they are bound to a certain SOP (Standard Operational Procedure) to find a result, no matter what that entails.
When I was a Paid Operational SFF, I had this argument time after time, as to why we couldn't get the FF's(No matter what rank) on the fire-ground to do Fire Investigations, right after the incident had even happened.
Well, that fell on deaf ears, until now, where we have the FireNet.
We are looking for good photos and written material with respect to Fire Incidents.
Fire Safety won't give us anything.

#139689 12/30/03 10:42 AM
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djk Offline OP
In Ireland each Fire Department's run by each local athority meaning we have about 35 of them and I'm not sure where exactly I would even look for national fire statistics or if they're compiled properly.

Each athority seems to release its own stats though.

#139690 01/02/04 06:35 PM
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I've had a chance to have a decent look at the figures for Electrically ignited fires and here are a few of them over a period of 5-6 years.
(columns are as follows, left to right, 2002-2003, 2001-2002, 2000-2001, 2000-1999)
  • Electrical Dist Eq 37 37 16 25
  • Meter/Meterbox 60 56 33 07
  • Power Sw/Gear 109 65 42 44
  • Switch/Socket 56 52 18 18
  • Lght Fitt/Bulb 214 196 98 93
  • Cord/Plug 33 36 13 11

Here are some figures for Appliances that caused fires in Residental dwellings.
Columns are the same as above.
  • TV/Radio/Stereo 36 57 38 36
  • Clothes Dryer 72 89 47 53
  • W/Machine 59 60 50 60
  • Heater, Portable 73 73 54 42
  • Oven, Fixed 153 167 99 94

[Sorry about the way that the columns turned out, they were all vertical when I typed it out!] [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by Trumpy (edited 01-02-2004).]

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