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[Linked Image] Hoo boy...

I had always considered those type of connectors "junk"... some cheapo poor excuse for a connector some "ferrin" outfit supplies...

I've always replaced them with 3/4" NM Connectors. I really hadn't thought about the listing violations.

Guess I need to learn how to install the dern things right... The only time I tried to use one, I gave up after it fell out a few times due to the weight of the cord.


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66, I'm with you on that! But since I havent put on a three wire flat cord in about six years I'll stick to the 3/4" NWT connector for the round cord. Just don't tell anyone!

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Joe - Why is that the only connector that should be used? I seen nothing wrong with using a 2-screw cable connector. What type of connector are we supposed to use when installing cords on disposals and dishwashers since they don't include one? The connectors included with range and dryer cords will NOT work with K.O. provided many of the appliances. Even if they do fit most of the time they will come right out if you move the cord around.

If you go to T&B's web site and look at connectors 3302 - 3311 it says "Non-Metallic Sheathed Cable and Flexible Cord Connectors".

Curt

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I just looked at a new 30A, 125/250V, 10/3 AWG SRDT, 6ft dryer cord here in SEARS that was supplied with a similar fitting like the one above. I then looked at another cord of the same configuration and found a different type of nonmetallic connetor that was supplied with a nonmetallic locknut, so I guess that I would be wrong by saying ONLY.


I would not have any problems if I could be sure that the connector was properly installed.


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Joe,

ouldn't it be better using the cord, because there you have your disconnect. If it is hard wired wouldn't you need a breaker lock?

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good point harold endean.....

yet the average homeowner is unaware of LOTO, and the appliance on/off is usually not LOTO friendly....

we could progress to 422.34....430.42....430.102....etc,etc....

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Naw, mount a SqD 70A Disco on the wall above the Unit for them to admire...

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Caper:

Not very common to see a disconnect used in dwellings, and if a cord it to be considered as the way to disconnect an electric range it has to meet the conditions here:

422.33 Disconnection of Cord-and-Plug-Connected Appliances.


(B) Connection at the Rear Base of a Range. For cord-and-plug-connected household electric ranges, an attachment plug and receptacle connection at the rear base of a range, if it is accessible from the front by removal of a drawer, shall be considered as meeting the intent of 422.33(A).


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I understand there are some area's that require a counter top switch for the dishwasher, in addition to it's integral one

anyone care to comment?

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I always put a cord on the dishwasher and a receptacle under the sink. Keeps me from wondering where a "unit switch with a marked off positon" applies.

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