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Good ideas, guys,must try these ones. Although, working live was an integral part of my training with the Power board, it still gives me the willies! ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/eek.gif) Especially where wires are joined in a terminal, you never know if the wires are actually twisted together or not. You only find out once you have the wires out of the said terminal. A good example of this is the Porcelain fuse-holders, we use over here, that have to be replaced when adding new work.
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Paul, What do you mean with a "Live panel changeover"?. Could you please clarify this?. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/smile.gif)
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Trumpy,
I mean installing a new main distribution panel ("Consumer unit") live so that the customer doesn't have to pay the PoCo to come out to pull/refit/seal the main fuse.
It's not too difficult to do as most of our domestic panels are in plastic enclosures. Obviously I will do it only if the existing cabling from the meter can be reused and if I consider that the live changeover can be made in a safe way.
It would be nice to not have to do this, but many people in this area are on very low incomes, and find it hard enough to pay for the wiring work without the extra PoCo fees.
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Paul, I am sure that you are well aware that in the UK live working is to be avoided if at all possible. The Electricity at Work Regulations 1989 specifically require the cct to be dead unless it is unreasonable in all the circumstances.
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lyle dunn
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Paul, How much does your Power Company charge for disconnecting and re-connecting for you Electricians?. Over here,it is normally done for NZ$30, however I can do this myself, being an approved person, to do this, so all of the abuse and low wages, finally paid off.
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Here in Ontario Canadai, I don't know what the charge is, but it is billed to the customer, and there is a free disconnect/reconnect per year.
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Lyle,
Hello, and welcome to ECN. Nice to have a member from the Emerald Isle!
Yes, I'm aware that current guidelines suggest that live working be avoided wherever possible, although I certainly couldn't quote the 1989 Elec. at Work Regs. in their entireity!
Trumpy,
The local PoCo charges any fees directly to the customer's bill, but the last time I checked the fee was around £35.
That may not sound a lot, but to many people in this area that represents a week's groceries.
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Paul, I see what you mean about the Cutting Charge( as it is called over here),the bill for this is normally sent to us, and we charge the customer accordingly, so unfair. I've done this work for people on low incomes,before, where they want to paint around the o/head connection box, no charge, just give me a ring when you want it hooked back up, no issues, no drama.
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Trumpy & Paul,
In my area PoCo permits NICEIC / SELECT approved contractors to cut seals (with permission) free of charge for replacement of consumer's switchgear.
Unregistered contractors are supposed to be charged £40, but this is a very new arrangement.
I am SELECT approved so I do not have to pay a re-sealing charge.
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David, With respect to re-sealing meters, who normally re-seals them?. Is it a Power board Inspector?, or some other such person?. Do they check the quality of the wiring before they re-seal it?. Just wondering.
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