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#124157 - 08/14/06 06:13 PM Some pics from my town  
Trumpy  Offline

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SI,New Zealand
Photo's submitted by vlad_tepish:

Pic 1: Leaning pole in Wisconsin:

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Pics 2 and 3: Pole lighting at grocery store:

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Pics 4 and 5: Whats wrong here?:

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#124158 - 08/14/06 06:23 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
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Posts: 8,223
SI,New Zealand

Pic 6: No ground in sub-panel:

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Pics 7 and 8: Weatherproof box?,outside pizza place a block from my house:

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Pic 9: Same place, bell box not attached to the wall:

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Thanks Patrick!. [Linked Image]

#124159 - 08/15/06 11:49 AM Re: Some pics from my town  
RSmike  Offline
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 134
Holland, MI USA
By looking at your dash I see you've obtained all the items on the scavenger hunt list. [Linked Image]

What's with all the grounds? Looks like they aren't even compressed into the connector. Are there two ground rods there?

I like the color coded breakers. I did something similar in my house so the wife would know which ones are lights, outlets, etc, etc. And which ones not to mess with... Can you tell us more about the color coding.


#124160 - 08/15/06 01:55 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
JJM  Offline
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 100
#6 is such a shame too, because the panel is just so neat and well organized. You really wouldn't expect the ground to be missing. Wonder how that happend...


#124161 - 08/15/06 03:08 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
Alan Belson  Offline
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,803
Mayenne N. France
Pic 7. Why was it necessary to repoint/mastic[?] a whole foot to the right of the box, [ just below the row of header bricks ]. What's under there I wonder?

Wood work but can't!

#124162 - 08/16/06 06:41 AM Re: Some pics from my town  
vlad_tepish  Offline
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 39
thr scavenger hunt was fun but I did not win,you should see the boss' van.
yes the pannel looks nice but you can tell that the guy who made up the pannel was not the same one who did the pipe work above the droped cealing"drunken monkey piping".
yes there are 2 ground rods one rod is done properly the other one has a bonding clamp on it.

the color codeing is for the employes "only turn off the green ones they are the lites".


#124163 - 08/16/06 06:48 AM Re: Some pics from my town  
iwire  Offline
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
North Attleboro, MA USA
Who says the panel is required to have a grounding bar.

It is likely grounded by the raceway and I don't see wiring methods such as cable that require a grounding bar.

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#124164 - 08/16/06 08:06 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
HotLine1  Offline

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,878
Brick, NJ USA
Bob: Good shot!
OK, two rods?? not bonded together??? Pipe clamp on rod, inproperly used?? Distance between rods?? Paint encrusted pole feeder repair?, more of that around then the ones done correctly!

The excuse for the 4" round/cover...someone moved something, note the tele ell fitting. My guess, it goes to a relocated sign!

The FS box? cable feeding it, brick wall....handyman hacker.

Retail bldgs are notorious, including the neighborheed pizza joints.



#124165 - 08/19/06 12:15 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
Tesla  Offline
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,273
Sacramento, CA
I'd fail Pictures 4 & 5: They are inductive chokes as installed.

Both runs must be clamped by a bonding bushing of the direct pass-through type. This is variously called a Rigid Bonding Bushing or a Hubbed Bushing.

They are referred to in 2002 NEC 250.70 (1)

Exhibit 250.32 in the 2002 NEC Handbook shows one.

Ironically, the drawing shows it improperly made up. The fitting is designed to terminate the GEC metallic raceway.


#124166 - 01/11/07 07:13 PM Re: Some pics from my town  
lil suzi  Offline
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 57
That first pic definately looks like WI. Almost looks like the hwy between Evansville and Stoughton?

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