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"Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121521 07/20/05 05:50 PM
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electure Offline OP
Gathering info for single-line diagrams is not my favorite, but necessary for permits. This one was less fun than most, a large place, multiple buildings, and all to do a small "facelift" on one building front.

The entire place is heaped with junk.

A particularly miserable fellow stopped to tell me that I really shouldn't be there, since another contractor (Mr. X) has taken care of all their needs for >20 yrs.

I need to get to that transformer
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Aah, there it is.
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As luck would have it, Mr X was working on the parking lot lighting (replacing capacitors barehanded on energized 1000w MH fixtures) the second day of my ordeal.

BTW, he also does control work
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I asked Mr X about a couple of final panels I couldn't find, and he led me to an employee break room, opened a closet, brooms, mops, and all, and revealed a 277/480 and a 225A 120/208 panel....with no covers or dead fronts. (no pic, as Mr X was standing right there.) I thanked him and left the giant junk heap as fast as possible.

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[This message has been edited by electure (edited 07-21-2005).]

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Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121522 07/20/05 07:31 PM
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Lostazhell Offline
Single line diagram? place a plate of spaghetti on the counter at the building dept and tell them thats as accurate as it's gonna get [Linked Image] Seriously... this looks faintly familiar of a stripmall I worked on back in the day trying to troubleshoot some facade lighting... I spent more time moving crap outta the way than I did anything else... and charged them accordingly... BTW, is that the xfmr falling off the wall??? [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121523 07/21/05 10:33 AM
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sandsnow Offline
The way that XFMR is mounted gives new meaning to the term "wedge anchor"

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Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121524 07/21/05 10:57 AM
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Alan Belson Offline
Send the pics to the local newspaper! Nothing like a bit of free and democratic publicity to get a boot planted right up the nincompoop Mr X's butt, along with the cretins who are supposed to be managing that crap-heap. Those morons are a menace to the employees.

Wood work but can't!
Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121525 07/21/05 06:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2000
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electure Offline OP
The xfrmr is hidden away at the bottom of the pic. The "wedge anchored" (great term, Sandsnow) enclosure is an air compressor controller. It's not as heavy as the xfrmr, so it's supported by the crap on the rack in front of it. It's still got 50 or 60 Amps of 480 3Ø power. I opted to go around, rather than under it, for obvious reasons.
I'm not sure if all of this is X's doing, but if not he sure is able to turn a blind eye to his customer's hazards.
He and his customer should both be set adrift in the middle of the ocean in a boat with a hole in it.

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 07-21-2005).]

Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121526 07/22/05 09:52 AM
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Alan Belson Offline
Customer; "Hey, Mr X, have you fixed that hole yet, it's getting kinda wet in here!"

Mr X; "Don't worry Boss! I just drilled another hole to let all the water out again!"


Wood work but can't!
Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121527 07/23/05 02:24 PM
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Theelectrikid Offline
Are you sure Mr. X is a contractor, not an arsonist? [Linked Image]

Is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121528 07/24/05 06:58 PM
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Trumpy Offline
What's the story in the 3rd picture?.
I see a lot of cables heading upwards(or downwards) over the edge of a (sharp?) metal edge?.
Is it common practice to have Data connection blocks out in the open like that?, it would be the first time I've seen them without some sort of a cover or enclosure over them.
I can't say I'm a fan of all of them joints and missing covers in the 4th pic either. [Linked Image]

Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121529 07/28/05 05:15 PM
Joined: May 2005
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brianl703 Offline
66 blocks of the type shown in the first photgraph rarely have covers. The ones that do have covers usually have T1 or other data lines on them, or are the demarc for the incoming telephone lines.

Re: "Mr. X Does ALL Our Work" #121530 07/28/05 08:50 PM
Joined: May 2003
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e57 Offline
Is the #3 pic blury? Or is that a scoech march on the covered potion of that box cover? (To the lower right of the label)

The box to the left will obviously never get covered....

Maybe a laundry list of violations for the customer, or a red tag will get Mr. X out of your hair.

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
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