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#118250 08/17/04 07:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,287
I got a violation notice on a ground bar. (The picture I took of it came out bad, though, so here's one just like it).
I slipped up and told the inspector he was crazy...Oooops [Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

It's a factory supplied component for a Cutler-Hammer 225 Amp Main Lug panel.

Now, what's the matter with it?

#118251 08/17/04 08:14 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,716
Hello Scott,
I slipped up and told the inspector he was crazy...Oooops [Linked Image]
doesn't that come under the heading of s---happens? [Linked Image]

The only thing I can think of is he wants a green screw or nut.

Of course you could tell him that besides his being crazy, until a conductor is landed on the bar it doesn't exist. [Linked Image]


#118252 08/17/04 08:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 558
What doesn't he like about it?

If this was a factor installed bar wouldn't any changes you make to it possibly void the UL listing?

I think you were being nice. I would have said more than calling him crazy.


Curt Swartz
#118253 08/17/04 09:50 PM
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Some people have a hair across it, and should be told so! (politely of course...)

Raise one brow like Spock, and a calm monotone voice... "I'm sorry, but you are out of your mind"

I had a simular thing happen with a panel once, the Inspector made some wild claim about "modification" of a neutral buss. So we continued with the Inspection, while I sent a guy to the supply house to get another one. He came back, we opened the un-opened box in front of him. Then took it back, a waste of time and money......

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
#118254 08/18/04 11:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,437
Was it a new, overly zealous inspector that I might be dealing with in a coastal city?
I've got one that wrote a subpanel I changed up as this exactly "Continuity problem at subpanel"
Thats all he wrote! [Linked Image] I called him & he said between the neutral & ground there's a continuity problem... I measured it & it rang out just fine... I recalled him out.... We'll see if he's really crazy [Linked Image]


#118255 08/18/04 07:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,287
The reason he wrote it up is that this mounting does not provide "direct metal contact."

He also doesn't like the EMT fittings without a grounding bushing or a Meyers Hub.
He says that the hole (7/8", 1-1/8", etc) is larger than the fitting, and thus does not provide "direct metal contact".

I looked up "direct metal contact" in the '99 NEC for a total of 0 hits for my query.

The secondary conductors from the utility transformer were not yet installed, so when I gave him a torque letter from the office that the gear had been torqued to specs, he told me I was committing FRAUD.

This & more was all before I told him he was crazy. [Linked Image]...S

He's an older fellow not by the beach, Randy.

#118256 08/18/04 07:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 200
Some people have a hair across it, and should be told so!

LMFAO!!!! [Linked Image]

Inspectors??? [Linked Image]

If hindsight were foresight, we'd all be millionaires!
#118257 08/18/04 07:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 123
I see it, its that ag, with the green writing, its partly under the attachment nut. It must be interfering with the "direct metal contact".

Or was that direct mental defect?? [Linked Image]

#118258 08/18/04 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
He also doesn't like the EMT fittings without a grounding bushing or a Meyers Hub.

I will steal a line from electricmanscott.

"Poor fellow"

Did you explain to him that no one gives a .... about what he likes?

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

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