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Stolen Pushmatic?? #117852 07/12/04 10:55 PM
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Got a no power call to an older condo (formerly ???) in a rough neighborhood.... checked the subpanel, (in the bathroom, with 30A QO's!) & there was no power coming in, went off to find the meter/main in the alley.... The breaker just wasn't there! This might expain the loss of power! [Linked Image] The breaker above hers was in sad shape also
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Also managed to sneek a pic of an outside light wired with flex & 2G mud box w/ open splices..

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Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117853 07/13/04 09:30 AM
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Here in my part of the country, stealing breakers from old abandoned and unused panels is fairly commonplace. Someone must have wanted that breaker awful bad to remove it from a STILL FUNCTIONING service! [Linked Image]

How long did it take you to find that QO panel, hidden away up there? I guess it's good that it wasn't located in the shower or under the sink...

Randy; Somehow, I knew that this would be one of your posts (before reading your name at the bottom). You get all the exciting service calls. [Linked Image]

Mike (mamills)

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117854 07/13/04 12:16 PM
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Yea, it does seem like Randy gets the interesting calls while the rest of us get the routine stuff. [Linked Image]

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Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117855 07/13/04 12:56 PM
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My Cost for a 70 Amp 2 pole Pushmatic was 325.00 Canadian the other week. It was new from seimans.A 60 Amp was about 199.00

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117856 07/13/04 04:36 PM
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I bought a 2 Pole 100A Pushmatic a couple of weeks ago-$85.00 reconditioned used from the local breaker house, but to STEAL one??? Huh??? [Linked Image]

Does anyone think that the bushed elbow/telephone ell, call it what you may that feeds the little subpanel is a violation? Can you pull the conductors with it in place?

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117857 07/13/04 05:56 PM
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(showing off my ignorance)...How do you "recondition" a breaker? It sounds like a pretty dicey operation to me. Does any kind of guarantee/warranty come with this?

Mike (mamills)

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117858 07/13/04 07:29 PM
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My suspicion is that "reconditioned" means "we wiped the dirt off."

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117859 07/13/04 08:30 PM
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reconditioned as explained to me by a local breaker house (I'm sure Scott's been to this one [Linked Image] ) is they blow all the dirt out with compressed air, place it on their test bench & check for proper operation/tripping characteristics, & then sell it... This breaker house gives a 2 year warranty on reco's, 1 year on new LOL
Scott, this was only a 40A 2P in the first place! I'm sure the phone elbow would make pulling new wires all kinds of fun! Although I have a feeling AHJ in Santa Ana wouldn't allow this to remain in a bathroom anyways!


Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117860 07/13/04 10:35 PM
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They also give you new attachment screws and sometimes new lugs with a reconditioned C/B.
They don't test instantaneous trips, they say it's "too destructive."

(Some of you have real twisted ideas of what constitutes "fun") [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

Re: Stolen Pushmatic?? #117861 07/13/04 11:55 PM
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I have a box of 70 A and 100A (unused) it's time to put them on eBay. [Linked Image] they do not any good collecting dust. That QO loadcenter looks like it been done by a local painting "contractor" he paints everything,wallplates,dataplates........ [Linked Image]

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