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What in Tarnation?
by timmp, September 10
Plumber meets Electrician
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by timmp, September 10
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I don't know how many times I have dealt with, that there has been a failure of the Architect to the roll sets or over-lay for conflict. Light CL of the room, sprinkler CL of the room... Often there is a race to see who gets there first. It looks like in this case no one said anything.


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E57, I agree completely.

Though, in my experience, it is the result of folks being too focused on their trade alone, and not having the slightese clue as to the requirements of other trades / codes.

As for this pic- expect more of this to come! The NFPA is aggressively atempting to require sprinklers in all residences, and has incorporated this requirement in their "model code."
Sprinkler folks ar accustomed to trying to place the heads in the center of the room. Since most sprinkler heads are intended to cover a 12' x 12' space, most rooms can be covered by just one head. Now, if the rooms are larger than that, then two heads will be used- with the result that neither head will be anywhere near the middle.

I am (again!) involved in bringing a "McMansion" up to the customers' expectations. For all the expense of these palaces (homes are priced in the area of 1.5 million!), almost every roon has a switched receptacle as the "lighting outlet."

While this may comply with the NEC, the occupants typically will want not just a light, but a fan, in the middle of every room.

Folks are going to place a lot more value on how things 'look' than any invisible technical advantage.

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I have one question,since this is in a hotel where is the Fire Marshal?

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"Installers required. Common-sense would be helpful, but is not a requirement."

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I always love when the HVAC guys see fit to place their registers right in the middle of the room where a lighting outlet box should go.

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I'm used to FM-200 systems shutting down exhaust fans prior to discharge. Maybe these folks wanted to shut off the fan to help fight the fire. I wonder how long it would take???
Joe

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