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WOW!!

Where is this?

Thanks Kevin!

Does anyone still use meterpans like this in their areas for new installs?

Our Utility (Lipa - was Lilco) has required us to use 200A OH/UG meterpans w/manual bypass. We have to use the same for 100, 150, or 200A. I notice that our pans (or cans by you?) have the neutral connection out of the 'drip zone'(center) and on the side. I think that was a very good design change and was wondering if others had that feature?


Bill

This was an existing SE built with 200 amp (2/0 cu) line side and 100 amp SEC load side of the meter socket. The customer (I work for Alliant Energy in SE Iowa)wanted to upgrade to a 200 amp load panel and do it himself, since an electrician costs too much. Using a licensed electrician would have saved him money in the end. New meter sockets in our area now require horned bypass on residential, and a lever bypass on commercial.

In central Minnesota Xcel Energy (formerly Northern States Power) requires a manual bypass in all meter sockets (here it's a "socket") whether residential or commercial. In the generic single phase configuration, the neutral is directly under the hub location.

Al

Bill
We still use those but we usually put a cover on them, and are required to bond the service Panel. The ones with c/o are reserved for commercial.
I have seen some schlocck installations but this has got to be a classicc.

talk about dangerous! one wrong move with a mower,"KERBOOM". did the power company actually hook this up?

just wondering when they allowed tape, tywraps, and telephone wires to be adequate support and protection for conductors...

CONDUIT!!! we don't need no stinkin conduit. man that is an original. goin to have to show that to my new class as what not to ever do.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! WHAT IN THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Now Now Now, I know!! we've all had those crazy visions of WHAT it would look like without any CONDUIT!!! But COME ON!!! My 5 year old SON knows better than this!!

Aw, C'mon!! Give credit where credit is due...at least they used bushings on the nipple in the bottom of the meter can...

Seriously though, Kevin...what is the thing that the wires pass through to enter the building? From the pic it looks like the corner of a basement window.

Mike (mamills)

Wow, guys!
Here, any resi 200A or less goes to the meter socket, and right out of the meter socket to the main c/b. (Usually in an "All-in-one" service)
Is this required by your serving utility?

Maybe he was going to back fill up to the bottom of the meter base. It is afterall underground wire ain't it. He just wasn't through yet huh.

I saw a house that had 30 amp 120 volt wires coming from the pole to the house (only 2 wires). The neutral wire was connected to one, and the red and black hots were connected to the other. (may i mention that they used electrical tape with western union splices.) The service wire then went to a meter then to his breaker box. The man living ther wired it himself without a building permit or inspection. he said he was shocked a few times. He's lucky to be alive. Oh yes, he said he also used speaker wire in a few places because he ran out of romex.

I knew that NEC instructor was full of it. He told us we were to use 2" PVC for that.
This way seems so much faster! Quanity not quality!

This is what happens when you use non-UV and cellular Pvc on a job.

Wonder what it looks like inside.....

To my non-electrician eyes, it appears that this DIY'er was not yet finished. Obviously, a very important detail was left out:



Bill:
Looks like this posting alone picked up about 5 new members of the BBS

Here in North NJ, the meter base that is pictured is similar to what my next-door neighbor just had installed. (They did use conduit, however.)

kduke:

How many ground rods did they use, and how are they connected? (They did use them, right?) I see a smaller conductor entering on the far right of the meter base...??

P. S. What is a "horned bypass?"

P. P. S. Now, if they had used one of these , maybe it would have made things a little better...


[This message has been edited by ThinkGood (edited 08-03-2003).]

C'mon, none of you have seen invisible conduit before?!?

I haven't seen it, but I have been charged for it by the supply house.

oh so that's what's on that wire,invisible conduit. should be a big seller!

With that invisible meter, they should save a lot of $ on their electric bill, also...

This guy is way ahead of you guys! He has taken care of heat dissipation and conduit fill in one easy move.

Pierre