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![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/BCodes/WTF.JPG) [This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 03-11-2005).]
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Shouldn't that terminal block be in a proper box first of all? ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/biggrin.gif)
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hmmmm .... Can you give us a Hint?? ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/smile.gif) Bill
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Ryan What are you talking about ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/confused.gif) The only minor thing I see is that it could use a bushing going through the drywall Wait, I think you are purposely hiding the violation by not showing all of the picture. Shame on you trying to trick us like that!! Sheeesh, some inspectors are so picky
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110.14(A) FOR SHAME! Nice job otherwise, though.
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Should have used metal studs their not combustible!
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Shouldn't that terminal block be in a proper box first of all? It is. It's a 1000+ sq. ft. box with its own access door and inspection windows. No problem with box fill there! ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/wink.gif)
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Looks like there are two neutrals in a single hole on the bottom block...
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Rename post: Can you find what is not a violation?
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They are white, but considering their surroundings I'd be reluctant to think that they're neutrals ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/forum/el/shock.jpg)
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Is it really carrying electricity? Maybe this mess of wires is just speaker cables for a home theater hi-fi system....
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Myth #2 Americian wiring does'nt need junction boxes........Roaming Nome...Oh, grow up!......Ahhh pooof!
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110-27(a)and possibly (b and c) unless this place is only accessible to qualified persons.
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It looks like there might be to much cable jacket in the box and I don't think those 2x4s are properly bonded.
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This was sent to me by a friend of mine in a nearby city. This is a basement finish done by an owner-builder. They didn't have any more room in the sub panel, so they took a 12-2 from a 50 amp breaker and created this mess to make more circuits 
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I think it's obvious...the circuits are not labeled on the panel cover..er.. on the drywall...er...on the studs
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... No cable supports,..staples,..nada,..Throw some "Ragu tomato sauce" on it,and serve it up as spaghetti!!
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I've been staring at that picture for hours and I'm still not seeing it. I give up. So what is the problem, Ryan?
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I've been staring at that picture for hours and I'm still not seeing it.
I give up. So what is the problem, Ryan?
I don't know!!! Thats why I posted it! Someone sent it to me via E-mail asking me what was wrong with it...I figured you guys could help me out, because I think it looks great!
Ryan Jackson,
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![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/eek.gif) eek! [This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 03-31-2005).]
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Ok, I think I finally see it. It looks like there might be a slight violation on a few of those cables. Less than 6" of free conductor.
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What are those lugs from???
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"Less than 6" of free conductor"
But there is more than 3" outside the box.
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What are those lugs from??? Those are Power Distribution Blocks. They're often used in machinery control cabinets, right after the main disconnect. The smaller wires are run to individual fuses or C/Bs. Ironically, the 3 pole model costs, by itself, just about the same amount as a small load center and 8 single pole C/Bs
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I see only one violation..... Well err.. let me rephrase that? I only know of one violation that could be there..... And that would be energizing this mess!!!!
I'll bring the hot dogs anyone have buns?
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so they took a 12-2 from a 50 amp breaker Now we know why they didn't put in it an enclosure. The 12-2 needs all the free-flow ventilation it can get!
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Cmon Paul.... Thats an American wersion of a radiant wall heater
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334.30 334.30(c) 300.4 are the grounds even connected? numerous violations mentioned and more still unnamed
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I got it. There is no fireproofing in those wall penetrations.
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Anything NOT in violation?
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"Myth #2 Americian wiring does'nt need junction boxes........Roaming Nome...Oh, grow up!......Ahhh pooof!"
No, it's, "Ahhh! Am I going to die?"
Is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
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This is obviously a new economy version of the old split bus panel.
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"Myth #2 Americian wiring does'nt need junction boxes........Roaming Nome...Oh, grow up!......Ahhh pooof!"
No, it's, "Ahhh! Am I going to die?"
Nice
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