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#106470 08/04/05 11:52 PM
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These were taken at the pizza parlor around the corner from my house.. they serve the best pizza in town, but the wiring leaves a little to be desired.

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#106471 08/05/05 06:02 AM
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Bozo's Electrical Code, article 99.243:

(1). Where the installation of a proper electrical box and fixed cabling will prove to be either (a) too expensive or (b) too much trouble, it shall be permitted to install any type of cord with minimal support.

(2). Any such cord so installed shall be connected to existing building wiring using splices which shall be left open to allow for air-cooling and visual inspection.

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"Too expensive": The estimated cost of following the NEC will exceed $5.

"Too much trouble": The estimated time to complete the job following NEC rules will exceed 10 minutes.

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#106472 08/05/05 12:37 PM
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Is there an actual code violation in the first picture, or is it just showing what the cable goes to?

#106473 08/05/05 07:46 PM
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I'm thinking the conduit body supporting the fixture is a violation.

#106474 08/05/05 08:19 PM
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My thought was that the conduit body was being used as a j-box, which I don't think is kosher..

#106475 08/06/05 01:50 AM
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410.16F The EMT doesn't seem to be supporting the fixture very well, i.e. sag. One could also read in some of 314.23F. RMC would be better choice, that is if the c-codulette is rated to have splices in it.

The other stuff is just crack shack type garbage.


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#106476 08/06/05 04:32 AM
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What's a crack shack!? Hopefully not a bordello, methinks!
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#106477 08/06/05 11:50 AM
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Crack Shack: See Crack House

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Crack House: An establishment of some kind where people make, deal and smoke crack cocaine. This could be a house, an apartment, or a shack to name a few, similar to a coke house.“You can always find a dealer at the crack house.”

"All the crack heads go to that crack house to smoke."

"The police raided a huge crack house and confiscated over 1000 rocks!"
Source Urban Dictionary


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#106478 08/06/05 01:37 PM
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The use of a conduit body at the base of the light brings up an interesting "loophole."
We can assume that splicing in this body is OK. Oddly enough, had they used a box, they would have had to support it. Conduit bodies have no such requirement.

#106479 08/07/05 07:45 PM
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In the 3rd picture, where the yellow cord enters the sawed off conduit and conduit body, it looks like the stripped off cord jacket is clamped under the conduit body cover. As if he was trying to do that for strain relief to protect the connections inside. Of course he didn't quite meet code....

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